Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground

[GreekGodX]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4705330

They have agreed to terms and are deciding on a date and venue for a fight. It will be at 147 pounds (welterweight). I cannot wait for this :tu

[icehog3]

Hope Manny can shut up The Mouth. :2

[kydsid]

I just hope they do it soon enough I can still pop the TV into the garage and watch the fight with some gars and friends. :tu

[Volt]

Who?

[iRiSh]

hopefully it will be better than the last big money bout i watched between david haye and nik valuev, it was piss poor and haye was very very lucky in my opinion, it was his good last round that won it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIrmV7WzWbE

[icantbejon]

I might actually consider paying money to watch this event. Failing that, I might convince a bunch of friends to come together at our B&M to pay for the fight so we can smoke and watch. That might actually be a better endeavor.

[DBall]

I really hope this happens.......

[Montano]

I would love to see Manny beat up on Money !!

[ucubed]

Pacquiao has the heart and the drive, the will to win...Mayweather has the face of a baby and is a lame boxer, he boxes for points...I hope Pacquiao crushes his face

[icehog3]

Pacquiao has the heart and the drive, the will to win...Mayweather has the face of a baby and is a lame boxer, he boxes for points...I hope Pacquiao crushes his face

I hate Pretty Boy Floyd, but he is hardly a "lame boxer". He may not be a brawler or entertaining, but he certainly has serious boxing skilz. :2

[pnoon]

I really hope this happens.......

:tpd:

but anywhere but Vegas. :2

[kydsid]

:tpd:

but anywhere but Vegas. :2


You have better odds of winning the lottery.

[pnoon]

You have better odds of winning the lottery.

You must have access to information the rest of us don't.

[kydsid]

You must have access to information the rest of us don't.

Nope, but what was the last time a big fight was held outside of Vegas? The other alternative is Atlantic City but it has been a while since I have seen a fight there.

[icehog3]

Nope, but what was the last time a big fight was held outside of Vegas? The other alternative is Atlantic City but it has been a while since I have seen a fight there.

Big talk of Dallas or New Orleans for this one as an alternative to Vegas.

[BORIStheBLADE]

Hope Manny can shut up The Mouth. :2

I agree.

Lets see how long Mayweather can hide behind that shoulder of his.

[kydsid]

Big talk of Dallas or New Orleans for this one as an alternative to Vegas.

Here's hopin for Dallas then as I can drive up for the fight!

[pnoon]

Here's hopin for Dallas then as I can drive up for the fight!
I sincerely hope you get your wish.

[icehog3]

I sincerely hope you get your wish.

:D

[kydsid]

I sincerely hope you get your wish.

If I do I'll make sure to take pics for the CA boxing crowd. :tu

[GreekGodX]

no go for Dallas

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=4729058

[GreekGodX]

Looks like the fight may not happen now. Paq-man won't fight with a olympic style drug testing. One source sited Pacquoiao is a little squemish with giving blood.

[white_s2k]

Mayweather is being a total sissy, trying to find anyway to get out of this fight. Pac said he would test right after the fight, but he doesn't want to have his blood drawn while he is training.

[icehog3]

Mayweather is being a total sissy

Shocking! :r

[GreekGodX]

For as much as I like Pacquiao, his class, his integrity in the ring and outside. At this point I'm questioning why he won't just say the hell with it and do the olympic style drug testing. The amount of blood they take is miniscule and will not effect oxygen levels in the body.

And being that Mayweather is from Michigan I might have to switch sides :hm

[ucla695]

I've really been looking forward to this match-up! I hope Pac Man silences Mayweather. :) Either way, it should be a great fight. :bx

[icehog3]

And being that Mayweather is from Michigan I might have to switch sides :hm

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/wayner1234/Cigar%20Chop%20Contest/icehog3_partagas.jpg

I would rather fight than switch to Loudmouth Floyd.....and I am from Michigan too. :r

[GreekGodX]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/wayner1234/Cigar%20Chop%20Contest/icehog3_partagas.jpg

I would rather fight than switch to Loudmouth Floyd.....and I am from Michigan too. :r

:r I love it.

This whole drug testing argument has gotten me thinking. If you are clean why would you not just submit yourself to the testing. If I was Pacquiao I would say yes just to shut up Floyd on the steriods front, and then use it as extra motivation to beat him harder.

I just hope they come to some agreement and we can have the fight!

[icehog3]

I want them to fight too, not sure why Manny is so freaked out about giving blood. But if Floyd's camp is being hardline on this issue, then my guess is Floyd either wants more of the purse, or not to fight Manny at all.

[rennD]

tsk tsk Mayweather and and his mind games. If it happens at the MGM, I can get tickets :)

[icehog3]

tsk tsk Mayweather and and his mind games. If it happens at the MGM, I can get tickets :)

Lemme know if you have an extra, Carl. ;)

[rennD]

Lemme know if you have an extra, Carl. ;)

I am trying for four right now, two of them being S.H.I.T. herfers, a friend I work with, and myself. I will contact my Host and beg for another one.

[NCRadioMan]

For as much as I like Pacquiao, his class, his integrity in the ring and outside. At this point I'm questioning why he won't just say the hell with it and do the olympic style drug testing. The amount of blood they take is miniscule and will not effect oxygen levels in the body.



I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

[GreekGodX]

I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

Good point on the tattoo. I brought up the oxygen level in blood because athletes won't donate blood during training or before an even because it decreases RBC count therefore hindering oxygen transport through the body. That would be my only logical explanation as another why he wouldn't want to do the blood testing.

Maybe give Pacquiao a few more million out of the purse to get him to do this. I really want to know why he won't do the testing!

[rennD]

http://www.fightnews.com/?p=33765

FYI

[NCRadioMan]

So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”

BS. There are so many ways to beat a urine test, it funny.

It shouldn't matter how many times they are blood tested as they use such a tiny about of blood. Pac-Man's schedule for wanting to give blood is interesting to me. Should be given at any time, not scheduled.

However, I can see why they would want an independent agency to do the testing though.

It's crap like this has, in part, virtually killed boxing, imo.

[icehog3]

I am trying for four right now, two of them being S.H.I.T. herfers, a friend I work with, and myself. I will contact my Host and beg for another one.

I don't expect anything, Carl, I know it would be a tough sell, but if you do, I am there. :D The cigars will be on me as well. :D

I agree, Christos. Very strange to say the least. The not liking needles argument is moot. If he didn't like needles, would he have gotten a tatoo? In this day in time, I don't think anyone is above reproach when it comes to ped's. Floyd Sr. has said for years that Pac Man takes HGH. With this refusal, it has me wandering. :hm

Greg, why don't you wander over to my neck of the woods and have some cigars with me while you are at it? :D

You make a good point, I just hope it all gets worked out.

[Starscream]

Not sure which one is a bigger douchebag: Mayweather or Pacquiano. Mayweather has a point, but so does Pacqyiono. Makes us pro-wrestling fans look less ignorant all the time.

[icehog3]

Not sure which one is a bigger douchebag: Mayweather or Pacquiano. Mayweather has a point, but so does Pacqyiono. Makes us pro-wrestling fans look less ignorant all the time.

Calling Mayweather a douchebag is an insult to douchebags. ;)

[GreekGodX]

"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass." -Floyd Mayweather

Pacquiao's promoter is saying the fight is dead. I hope they can get this bs resolved and fight.

[kydsid]

Calling Mayweather a douchebag is an insult to douchebags. ;)

How about douchecanoe?

[icehog3]

So the front row tickets I got on eBay for $50 are no good? :confused:

[NCRadioMan]

This whole situation is why, in part, that boxing is a dying, farce of a sport.

[icehog3]

This whole situation is why, in part, that boxing is a dying, farce of a sport.

I love boxing, but there is too much politicing and grandstanding...just STFU and fight! :bx

[icantbejon]

But if Floyd's camp is being hardline on this issue, then my guess is Floyd either wants more of the purse, or not to fight Manny at all.

The third possibility here is that Floyd's camp knows something about Manny.

Manny's reasoning is a little soft as far as I'm concerned. He says it could weaken him before the fight? Well if that's the case, it would for Mayweather too, so no big deal. Afraid of needles??? The guy fights for a living...toughen up. Maybe Manny is/was doping and needs some time to clean it out before the test. For the biggest pay day in boxing history, I can't image this guy will give it up for the weak excuses he's provided so far.

[rennD]

It's not like Mayweather to play mind games before a fight! Oh wait ... he does EVERY time. He wants to meet a weight shows up as something else. I believe that was the last fight he had.

If these guys want to fight, it will happen. Either way, I am watching the next Manny fight in March/April. Be it Yuri or whoever. :)

[marge796]

I love boxing, but there is too much politicing and grandstanding...just STFU and fight! :bx


I totally agree but it's the nature of the beast for the sport. When they do go toe to toe it's going to be a good one!


Chris.....

[Noodles]

If you think something will affect you, no matter how ridiculous your reasoning is, it will.

Pacquiao attributed his last loss to Erik Morales or JMM because of the blood test he took the day before. He said he felt weak the day of the fight.

PBF thinks he is at a disadvantage because in his mind, Pacquiao is on PED.

[icehog3]

With his fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. all but off, Manny Pacquiao has instead agreed to fight Joshua Clottey on March 13 at a site to be determined, Pacquiao's camp said Friday

:bs

[kydsid]

:bs

:bh Oy Vay


Less :bs and more :bx from these fools.

[icehog3]

Floyd Mayweather Jr., who has steadfastly refused to answer questions about the most recent round of failed negotiations for a fight with Manny Pacquiao, has unleashed a profanity-filled racist and homophobic Internet rant against the Filipino star.

In an approximately 10-minute Ustream video, apparently made Thursday and also posted on YouTube, Mayweather repeated his assertion that Pacquiao uses performance-enhancing drugs, an accusation that resulted in a defamation lawsuit from Pacquiao earlier this year.

"I'm on vacation for about a year, about a year," Mayweather said. "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. We ain't worried about that. So they ain't gotta worry about me fighting the midget. Once I kick the midget ass, I don't want you all to jump on my d---. So you all better get on the bandwagon now. ... Once I stomp the midget, I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

It gets a lot worse, but I won't offend by posting more....what a POS. :2

[GreekGodX]

HOLLYWOOD, Calif -- Don't hold your breath for that Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather megafight. As far as Top Rank CEO Bob Arum is concerned it's never happening.

"That fight will never, ever happen," Arum said. "Ever, ever happen because of Mayweather.

"When Mayweather talks about how he hates Top Rank he's talking bulls---. What Mayweather hates is Manny's right hand. Mayweather has no chin and Manny will knock him out. Pacquiao and Mayweather is a three or four-round fight. Period. And who knows that best? Mayweather. The one thing Mayweather has had throughout his career is he knows boxing. He understands boxing and Mayweather can not compete with Manny. It's the right hand of Manny that is preventing that fight from happening. If Manny agreed just to jab with the right hand the fight would be made in 30 seconds."

Pacquiao's promoter made the comments before Pacquiao's media day workout leading up to his Nov. 12 fight against Juan Manuel Marquez.

"Once Manny demonstrated that fearsome right hand there was no chance ever that the fight would happen," Arum said. "None. Don't kid yourself. I know Mayweather, everything else is bulls---."

When Pacquaio was asked about the megafight he smiled, shrugged his shoulders and answered the same way he normally does.

"I don't know," he said. "Maybe the promoters can not afford him. I think that's the reason. The promoters cannot afford him. What he's asking is hard."

Arum also said Mayweather tarnished boxing and cheated the fans with the way he beat Victor Ortiz last month.

"Mayweather demonstrated a complete lack of sportsmanship and the public that paid for that was cheated," Arum said. "I don't care about the baloney about protect yourself at all times and its a legal shot. That's not the issue. The fighter has the obligation to entertain the public and hitting this kid with two cheap shots really put a damper on boxing. For me, f--- the legacy, he cheated the public."

Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said Pacquiao will only fight for two more years and four to five more fights before retiring and focusing on his political career and believes it is important for Pacquiao's legacy that he fight Mayweather.

"I think it would be good for boxing and good for the world if that fight happened," Roach said. "If that doesn't happen there will always be a question mark why they didn't fight each other. If Floyd ends up undefeated but didn't fight Manny Pacquiao it's going to haunt him for the rest of his life, but I don't think he thinks logically. It's always something with him. Only he knows why he won't take this fight."

Roach believes the fight needs to happen by next year for it to live up to its lofty expectations, but after so many false starts he's not making any predictions.

"You don't want them to fight when its too late and they're too old and the fight's not as spectacular," Roach said. "They're both in their prime right now and I think it needs to happen now. People around the world are getting tired of it. They need to fight already."

The latest news from Bob Arum on Pacquiao vs Mayweather. I wish they would just fight. Mayweather could really help his career out by doing it. The money they would both get would be insane.

Link to the story quoted above (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story/_/id/7153089/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-fight-never-happen)

[icehog3]

Arum has an agenda here as well....but like you, Son, I just wish it would happen. Boxing needs it.

[GreekGodX]

Perhaps setting the stage?

Floyd Mayweather Jr. does not plan on taking another 16-month vacation from the boxing ring, like he did after easily outpointing Shane Mosley in May 2010.

Instead, Mayweather, who knocked out Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, will make a relatively hasty return: May 5 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com on Wednesday night.

Mayweather's opponent has not been determined but Ellerbe said, "We're looking to make the biggest fight possible and everyone knows what that fight is, the little fella."

Ellerbe was, of course, referring to Manny Pacquiao. The welterweight champions and the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world have been on a collision course for years. However, negotiations have fallen apart over drug testing protocol.

Pacquiao is set to fight Juan Manuel Marquez for the third time Nov. 12 at the MGM Grand and is a heavy favorite.

"Floyd made it very clear that he wants to give the fans the biggest fights that are out there. He wants to stay active," Ellerbe said. "We're going to do everything in our power to make the biggest fight out there for the fans and we all know what the fight is."

Mayweather, a five-division champion, has fought only five times since 2007.

Ellerbe said Mayweather informed him and fellow adviser Al Haymon on Wednesday of his decision to return in May.

"We had a discussion, Floyd, me and Al," Ellerbe said. "Floyd made it very clear to us what he wanted to do. He told us he is looking to make the biggest fight that is out there and to make it in May."

Ellerbe also informed Golden Boy promoter Richard Schaefer, who does not have a contract with Mayweather but has promoted his last five bouts, of the plan.

"I'm very excited that the sport's biggest pay-per-view star is going to be back on May 5," Schaefer told ESPN.com. "We have informed the pay-per-view industry and I have the arena on hold. I'm excited to continue my relationship with Floyd and his team. It's always fun to work with Floyd."

Although May 5 is seven months away, Mayweather's fights have typically been promoted for several months in advance of the fight. The first weekend of May is traditionally a weekend for a major pay-per-view fight.

"We have to plan any time you're the biggest star in the sport," Ellerbe said. "You have to plan in advance because his fights are events. In order to maximize the exposure you want to plan as far in advance as you can to make your event as big as possible. May 5, that is the date Floyd is fighting on. We have secured May 5 at the MGM. Floyd is excited to make his return."

Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs), who turns 35 in February, reclaimed one of his old welterweight titles with his knockout of Ortiz in a fight that Golden Boy said generated 1.25 million buys and $78.44 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue. The buys tied the fight for third place all-time among non-heavyweight pay-per-views and gave Mayweather his third consecutive 1 million-plus pay-per-view fight and fourth in his last five bouts.

Although Mayweather plans to fight, he still faces several legal cases. He was acquitted last week of misdemeanor harassment charges alleging that he had threatened the lives of two security guards in the gated community in Las Vegas where he lives. But he faces a trial for a misdemeanor battery complaint alleging he poked another homeowner association security guard in the face during a different confrontation over parking tickets last November. Mayweather has pleaded not guilty.

In the most serious case, Mayweather faces four felony and four misdemeanor charges stemming from an alleged domestic dispute with his former girlfriend, who is the mother of two of his children.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. eyes May 5 fight (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7184086/floyd-mayweather-jr-wants-make-biggest-fight-possible-5)

[kydsid]

You know what both of them and the rest of boxing can just go to hell. I haven't watched anything in more than a year and honestly don't plan on it at all. They have turned boxing into a soap opera (media, hbo 24/7, the grandstanding etc). Just good boxing, thats all I want and they can't deliver.

[chippewastud79]

Unfotunately, this could merely be more grandstanding by Mayweather to hype a fight against someone other than his most imposing potential foe. :hm

[loki]

i'm sure it'll happen this time...I'm sure the other times of this not happening were just flukes...

[GreekGodX]

Unfotunately, this could merely be more grandstanding by Mayweather to hype a fight against someone other than his most imposing potential foe. :hm

I think you are right, Adam. Bob Arum's answer back..

When we asked yesterday whether Floyd Mayweather was serious about setting up a fight against Manny Pacquiao, 59% voted that it was "just more Mayweather blather."

Apparently Bob Arum, the promoter for Pacquiao, agrees with the majority. He thinks Mayweather's camp putting out the May 5 date was laughable.

"The way they are going about it seems like a bizarre way to go about it," Arum told ESPN's Dan Rafael. "If you want to put it together, you meet, you talk. You don't just come out and say, 'The fight is May 5 at the MGM.' ...I think it's Floyd's way of trying to grab a little bit of the spotlight away from Manny. I'm not going to get upset. I take it with a grain of salt."

Pacquiao fights Juan Manuel Marquez on Nov. 12.

Arum says the other side knows his phone number.

"When they want to do some serious negotiating somebody will call me... and we will sit down and talk. It's obviously a fight we want to make."

Bob Arum answers back (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/11/bob-arum-laughs-at-mayweathers-proposed-fight-with-pacquiao/1)

[GreekGodX]

Hoping this really happens, fingers crossed!

"Manny Pacquiao I'm calling you out let's fight May 5th and give the world what they want to see," read Mayweather's first tweet.

One minute later, Mayweather followed with this: "My Jail Sentence was pushed back because the date was locked in. Step up Punk."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7447532/floyd-mayweather-jr-calls-manny-pacquiao-5-fight

[Taki]

I still think Mayweather is a better fighter strategically speaking....very illusive, I think he stands a great chance in going the distance and winning the fight!

[Taki]

You know what both of them and the rest of boxing can just go to hell. I haven't watched anything in more than a year and honestly don't plan on it at all. They have turned boxing into a soap opera (media, hbo 24/7, the grandstanding etc). Just good boxing, thats all I want and they can't deliver.

Dido....

MMA :tu Much more diverse and much more skill

[ArgusP2]

Calling him "out" over Twitter? Yeah, that's going to be taken seriously...

[icehog3]

Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r

[ArgusP2]

Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r

Could be a fan of the singer? :r
;s

[GreekGodX]

I read another article that said Pacquiao was going to tell his promoter that the only fight he wants is Mayweather. But I also read somewhere else that a injury to Pacquiao would keep him out of a fight until June.

[icehog3]

I read another article that said Pacquiao was going to tell his promoter that the only fight he wants is Mayweather. But I also read somewhere else that a injury to Pacquiao would keep him out of a fight until June.

Prison Death Match! :wo

[Zeuceone]

Ill believe it when they say it on facebook

[icehog3]

Ill believe it when they say it on facebook

What is "Facebook"? I have never seen it mentioned on MySpace.....

[BnBTobacco]

Same with the millions of boxing fans, I am hoping for this fight to materialize in order to prove that Manny is really the Pound-for-Pound King. Manny's greatness cannot be validated without beating Mayweather.

[ArgusP2]

What is "Facebook"? I have never seen it mentioned on MySpace.....

MySpace? Never heard of it. BTW, wanna "friend" me on Friendster?

[Ashcan Bill]

Same with the millions of boxing fans, I am hoping for this fight to materialize in order to prove that Manny is really the Pound-for-Pound King. Manny's greatness cannot be validated without beating Mayweather.

Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire, and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.

[Stephen]

Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire, and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.
Aww Hell, I feel a music montage coming on... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4):bx

[Noodles]

This fight won't happen anytime soon for various reasons.

I predict these two will eventually meet when both are in the twilight of their careers. 2017 fight seems like the possible date.

[kydsid]

Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r



Ditto Tom, get your mind out of the gutter. I know you slept there last night but give it a try. :r

[icehog3]

Ditto Tom, get your mind out of the gutter. I know you slept there last night but give it a try. :r

"Ditto", now I know what that means, Jason. :r

[kydsid]

"Ditto", now I know what that means, Jason. :r

Glad I could help, I know you local boys can be a little slow on the uptake compared to us boys on the top. :D

[icehog3]

Glad I could help, I know you local boys can be a little slow on the uptake compared to us boys on the top. :D

Some prefer top of the local pyramid to bottom of the big one, Jason. ;) :r

[BnBTobacco]

Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire,and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.

Hahaha I agree with you on that.

[BnBTobacco]

To add to that, Manny now has a lot of companies, TV shows and commercials, and he also is a representative in Congress. He has become a billionaire and an inspiration to millions especially his countrymen.

[icehog3]

Floyd called up Manny directly, and allegedly offered him a 50/50 split for a May 5th fight.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7480500/floyd-mayweather-jr-places-telephone-call-manny-pacquiao

[GreekGodX]

Floyd called up Manny directly, and allegedly offered him a 50/50 split for a May 5th fight.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7480500/floyd-mayweather-jr-places-telephone-call-manny-pacquiao

Hoping it leads to something.. I cannot imagine how that phone call went down and would have loved to be listening in.

[BnBTobacco]

Hoping it leads to something.. I cannot imagine how that phone call went down and would have loved to be listening in.

Would love to hear how the conversation went as well..

[GreekGodX]

Mayweather will be fighting Cotto May 5th, not PacMan :td

[icehog3]

Mayweather will be fighting Cotto May 5th, not PacMan :td

Shocking. :rolleyes:

[rebelknight]

Shocking. :rolleyes:

Yea can't say I didn't see this coming. The whole thing was handled extremely unprofessionally. I don't know of too many big fights where a guy sets a date, time and venue and just expects the other fighter to completely agree to his terms. If Mayweather really wanted the fight he should have come into contact with Arum and Pacquiao before and tried to work on a real deal not just say this is when I'm fighting and if you want to be a part of it you don't have a choice. If I were Manny I wouldn't have taken the fight either. I really don't feel that his reputation has anything to lose by not fighting Mayweather. Mayweather on the other hand needs that fight to happen to back up all the times he's ran his mouth. I'd love to see this fight happen just as much as anyone but I really can't blame Manny for it not going through up to this point. :2

[icehog3]

Yup....I am not blaming Manny, and agree with your assessment of how Big Mouth Floyd the Ego handled the whole thing. I am just disappointed that we may never see these two fight in their relative "primes".

[Taki]

Yup....I am not blaming Manny, and agree with your assessment of how Big Mouth Floyd the Ego handled the whole thing. I am just disappointed that we may never see these two fight in their relative "primes".

+1 Brother....ridiculous that this fight has gone down yet!! They should have fought so long ago and now they probably won't fight and if they do they will be in wheelchairs racing down the hall!! What a joke

[icehog3]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7880510/floyd-mayweather-basic-common-sense-manny-pacquiao-uses-performance-enhancing-drugs

I call "bullshit". :2

[DBall]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7880510/floyd-mayweather-basic-common-sense-manny-pacquiao-uses-performance-enhancing-drugs

I call "bullshit". :2

I concur... what crap will he come up with if Pac submits to the random drug testing...?

[chippewastud79]

I concur... what crap will he come up with if Pac submits to the random drug testing...?

I believe, Pacquiao already said he would do a test the week of the fight, just not the night before. :hm

[kydsid]

I have managed to move three times, get a promotion and engaged in the time this thread has been open. What is the over / under I have a grandkid by the time this fight actually happens?

[pnoon]

I have managed to move three times, get a promotion and engaged in the time this thread has been open. What is the over / under I have a grandkid by the time this fight actually happens?

I have no clue but congrats on your engagement. Ms. Callahan, I presume?

[proguy747]

Manny looks awful shady for not participating in olympic style drug testing. No matter what his excuse.

[kydsid]

I have no clue but congrats on your engagement. Ms. Callahan, I presume?

Your Memory is scary good. Took me a minute just to figure out how you could even know. And yes indeed, thanks.

[pnoon]

Your Memory is scary good. Took me a minute just to figure out how you could even know. And yes indeed, thanks.

:)
Sometimes my memory scares me.

[Jasonw560]

Mayweather's a punk. I haven't paid for a PPV fight in years, but I'd pay just to see Pretty Boy Floyd get his ass kicked.

[rennD]

I believe, Pacquiao already said he would do a test the week of the fight, just not the night before. :hm

I dont understand what you are saying. Does anyone know if these drugs are semi-instant? As in "the night before" type of instant.

[chippewastud79]

I dont understand what you are saying. Does anyone know if these drugs are semi-instant? As in "the night before" type of instant.

One of the reported hang-ups to getting this fight to happen was: Mayweather claimed he wants Pacquiao to submit to a drug test the night before the fight, similar to the testing done throught out the Tour de France for blood doping or other PED's. Pacquiao won't agree to have blood drawn the night before the fight. Blood doping could be a 'night before' remedy, but I am not sure if it would be gone before the night after the fight, when both fighters are drug tested again by boxing's governing body where the fight was fought, I believe. :sh

In my opinion, it is Mayweather's current out to avoid fighting Pacquiao for the time, until he can formulate another excuse. I think his first excuse was the split for the prize money. :rolleyes:

[Stephen]

As if I needed another reason to dislike Money. Accompanied to the ring by Justin Bieber? Seriously?

[chippewastud79]

As if I needed another reason to dislike Money. Accompanied to the ring by Justin Bieber? Seriously?

He also had Triple H and 50 Cent. ;)

[GreekGodX]

He also had Triple H and 50 Cent. ;)

I didn't even notice Triple H. I was trying to figure out if it was actually Beiber :lr He's gonna need to do more than that for some street cred.

[Stephen]

He also had Triple H and 50 Cent. ;)
Justin Bieber/Triple H/Fiddy Cent. I'm deferring to Cookie Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WhuikFY1Pg) on this one.

[chippewastud79]

Justin Bieber/Triple H/Fiddy Cent. I'm deferring to Cookie Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WhuikFY1Pg) on this one.

50 Cent :confused:

[icehog3]

Those who know me know I am not a fan of Floyd Mayweather. That being said, he came to fight last night, did not run away, and soundly beat a good fighter.

But I still hope Manny knocks his block off.

[chippewastud79]

I do appreciate Pretty Boy for calling out Arum as the reason the fight can't happen. :hm

[icehog3]

I do appreciate Pretty Boy for calling out Arum as the reason the fight can't happen. :hm

He was really trying to change public opinion about himself personally in the 2 post fight interviews.

Didn't change mine, he is just a manipulator and a self-absorbed doucherod.

[chippewastud79]

He was really trying to change public opinion about himself personally in the 2 post fight interviews.

Didn't change mine, he is just a manipulator and a self-absorbed doucherod.

He finally fought a fight I wasn't pissed for watching, but he is a complete ass. I think he realizes that the public isn't buying all his BS about why he won't fight Pacquiao any longer, but I am not ure where he is going with this recent change of attitude. In the end, he still probably comes up with a new excuse. :hm

[icehog3]

He finally fought a fight I wasn't pissed for watching, but he is a complete ass. I think he realizes that the public isn't buying all his BS about why he won't fight Pacquiao any longer, but I am not ure where he is going with this recent change of attitude. In the end, he still probably comes up with a new excuse. :hm

Hopefully 20 years in prison. :r

[bonjing]

Eh, I'm not really excited to see the fight anymore. Pacquiao's last fight seemed like it had no heart in it. I'm thinking he's becoming more of a politician than a boxer. I also think that Mayweather is just looking to retire with a super big payout, win or lose. Winning would just be the icing on the cake.

[czerbe]

I'm not a fan of Mayweather never have been but in this case I think Manny keeps dodgeing him, why not just take the blood test and fight.. if you got nothing to hide take the test. I'm sure there is a lot more going on but thats just my Opinion

[Stephen]

I'm not a fan of Mayweather never have been but in this case I think Manny keeps dodgeing him, why not just take the blood test and fight.. if you got nothing to hide take the test. I'm sure there is a lot more going on but thats just my Opinion
Pacquiao agreed to random bloodtesting over two years ago. His one stipulation is that he wouldn't on the day of the fight.

[czerbe]

Pacquiao agreed to random bloodtesting over two years ago. His one stipulation is that he wouldn't on the day of the fight.

I know but still get it done for gods sake before boxing get totally engulfed MMA :gary

[chippewastud79]

I know but still get it done for gods sake before boxing get totally engulfed MMA :gary

Another thing Manny hasn't agreed to is the fight money Mayweather had offered. Mayweather offered him $50M of the take, which could exceed $400M. Not exactly a fair split. :sh

[icehog3]

Manny is dodging Big Mouth? Please. :rolleyes:

[ArgusP2]

Manny is dodging Big Mouth? Please. :rolleyes:

:tpd:







;s

[Stephen]

Manny is dodging Big Mouth? Please. :rolleyes:
Yeah, pretty much what I was thinking.

[GreekGodX]

Yea no way Manny is dodging Mayweather. Mayweather needs to concede on a few things to make this fight happen. Problem is I don't think Mayweather thinks he needs this fight, when in all actuality his legacy will be tarnished if he doesn't fight Pacquaio

[rebelknight]

Mayweather goes to jail today. Can't say I'm not a little happy because he is getting what he deserves but it also means for the next 87 days we won't get any closer to seeing the fight everyone wants to see (except Mayweather)

[kydsid]

Can an Admin change the thread title. It is just patently false. This fight isn't getting closer and never will. Every time this thread pops up again it is false advertising. :D

[icehog3]

Can an Admin change the thread title. It is just patently false. This fight isn't getting closer and never will. Every time this thread pops up again it is false advertising. :D

I will leave it, Jason, and we can call it "irony". :r

[kydsid]

I will leave it, Jason, and we can call it "irony". :r

I'll arm wrestle you for it ! :su


On second thought, better pick a better admin for that, maybe Tyr. :r

[icehog3]

I'll arm wrestle you for it ! :su


On second thought, better pick a better admin for that, maybe Tyr. :r

C'mon, Jason....you crap bigger than him!

[kydsid]

C'mon, Jason....you crap bigger than him!

I was taught never to pick a fight I couldn't win. I think Mayweather was taught the same lesson.

[icehog3]

I was taught never to pick a fight I couldn't win. I think Mayweather was taught the same lesson.

Maybe he won't have that option in jail? :sl :lr

[kydsid]

Maybe he won't have that option in jail? :sl :lr

Lol. Well in the words of my CO brother, "That scrub is sitting most the day in the LT's office talking boxing and having lunch, and that is IF the warden isn't a boxing fan. Then they will escort him back to his private cell".

[icehog3]

I bet he is probably right, Jason. And the rich get richer....

[icehog3]

Yahoo Sports:

The burden, finally, is fully and entirely on Floyd Mayweather Jr. to make a fight with Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao agreed Thursday during appearances on two separate television shows on ESPN to give Mayweather a 55-45 advantage on a financial split should they fight, as the public has been demanding since late 2009. A match between them is expected to be the most lucrative bout in boxing history.

Pacquiao, who meets Juan Manuel Marquez for a fourth time on Dec. 8 in Las Vegas, had been demanding a 50-50 split. Without such a split, he’d said repeatedly over the last 18 months that he would not agree to a fight with Mayweather.

The other major hurdle blocking the fight between the two men regarded by many as the two best in the world was Mayweather's demand for Olympic-style drug testing. Initially, Pacquiao balked at the testing. He has since changed his stance and has said repeatedly over the last year he would fully comply with the tests, just as Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto have done in Mayweather's last three fights.

In a telephone interview with Yahoo! Sports on Monday, Pacquiao made no mention of a purse split, but he was as optimistic about the possibility of a fight with Mayweather as he had ever been.

"I think Mayweather will be next," Pacquiao said, declining to specify why.

But by agreeing to give Mayweather the lion's share of the purse, Pacquiao has shifted the onus to Mayweather.

[GreekGodX]

Pops just read the same article on ESPN potential fight (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8405784/manny-pacquiao-says-floyd-mayweather-jr-bigger-split-money-potential-fight)

We will finally see if Mayweather is serious about facing Pacquiao

[icehog3]

Not holding my breath, Son. :(

[kydsid]

Not holding my breath, Son. :(

Same. If it does happen watch the PPV fee be through the roof though. I would'nt be shocked at something well over a $100.

[icehog3]

Same. If it does happen watch the PPV fee be through the roof though. I would'nt be shocked at something well over a $100.

And I will be one of the suckers paying it.

[kydsid]

And I will be one of the suckers paying it.

Me too cause it will be like seeing a coworker with wings ;) :r

[GreekGodX]

Not a Pacquiao fight but Mayweather will be fighting Canelo Alvarez 9/14 at a catchweight of 152 :wo

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9323856/floyd-mayweather-jr-fight-canelo-alvarez-sept-14

[big_jaygee]

Not a Pacquiao fight but Mayweather will be fighting Canelo Alvarez 9/14 at a catchweight of 152 :wo

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9323856/floyd-mayweather-jr-fight-canelo-alvarez-sept-14


My money is on Canelo :tu

[czerbe]

This is going to be good!!!! finally worth the money you will pay for it... I hope

[icehog3]

Not a Pacquiao fight but Mayweather will be fighting Canelo Alvarez 9/14 at a catchweight of 152 :wo

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9323856/floyd-mayweather-jr-fight-canelo-alvarez-sept-14

My money is on Canelo :tu

I will be rooting for Canelo for sure, but no way would I bet money against Big Mouth Floyd. :2

[big_jaygee]

I will be rooting for Canelo for sure, but no way would I bet money against Big Mouth Floyd. :2

:r I think they both have the same punching speed but I also think Canelo hits harder. Bad thing is I think Canelo is too young and will try to go for the knock out early and that will be his downfall. :2

[icehog3]

I would pay big money to see Canelo knock Big Mouth on his arse, Jason. :tu

On the other hand, I would wager a 5'er of good cigars on Big Mouth if it came down to it. ;)

[racerX]

Voting with my wallet - no mayweather ppv dollars from me till he fights Manny. Although sadly I think time may have run out on what should have been.

[icehog3]

Voting with my wallet - no mayweather ppv dollars from me till he fights Manny. Although sadly I think time may have run out on what should have been.

Agreed on the window possibly being shut, I am not sure Manny is the fighter he was a couple years ago....sad that this fight didn't happen then. Canelo may have the best chance at this point, but he will need to fight a super intelligent fight.

[GreekGodX]

Canelo vs Mayweather next weekend. I will definitely be watching.

I don't think we will ever see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao now. Looks like the time has passed unless Pacquiao fights someone, wins, and that is enough to bring interest back to this fight.

[icehog3]

I agree with you, Son, I think the time has past.

I know Big Mouth is a big favorite...that being said, Let's Go Canelo! :bx

[kydsid]

Lol this thread again? It has run off circled around and came back up more than Mayweather himself during a fight.

[icehog3]

Lol this thread again? It has run off circled around and came back up more than Mayweather himself during a fight.

Just when you thought you were out....Big Mouth pulled you back in.

[racerX]

Man I love boxing but I just can't push the buy button on a big mouth fight. Too much dancing around the ring without enough punching. I watched my DVD of PAC man vs margarito last week and that was a great fight. So Tom and anyone else, let me ask you. Am I missing something by not watching this guy dance around? Do I need to appreciate his boxing skills in another way? Does Canelo actually have a decent chance of winning?

[icehog3]

John, the price for the Big Mouth fight certainly gives me pause. When I bite on his fights, it's just hoping this might be the time he hits the canvas. I know he is an excellent "boxer", but his fights usually leave me cold.

Bar in town is showing it for a $10 cover, I will likely go there to watch rather than pony up $75 to see it at home.

[Noodles]

I can't stand Mayweather's personality. I do appreciate his boxing skills though.

[GreekGodX]

John there probably is somewhere near you that plays it or invite 10 friends over and split it :)

[icehog3]

Broke down and paid the scratch for the fights, that Garcia - Mathisse fight might end up being the sleeper.

Going to fire up an Edmundo Dantes for the headliner in hopes that Canelo pulls off the upset.

[GreekGodX]

Watched the fight with a brother and some good cigars. Witnessed Floyd tactically breakdown another fighter. The Money Team!!

[icehog3]

Wasn't even close, I scored it 11-1 Floyd. Whoever convinced Canelo that he should "box" and not try to brawl early gave him some rotten advice.

[bonjing]

CJ Ross needs to be fired. I hate Floyd but damn the man can box.

[GreekGodX]

I was really surprised Canelo didn't come out just going after Mayweather. He was way to timid and by trying to out box Mayweather was a terrible call. You are right, Pops.

CJ Ross is an idiot. I don't know what fight he was watching to give Canelo 6 rounds. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[Stephen]

Wasn't even close, I scored it 11-1 Floyd. Whoever convinced Canelo that he should "box" and not try to brawl early gave him some rotten advice.
No joke. Hated that the main event didn't start until almost midnight. I was fighting sleep by then and didn't get to fully enjoy it.

[GreekGodX]

Manny agreed to terms. Waiting on Mayweather...

[icehog3]

Would have rather seen this 3 years ago, but I will still be happy to see it in May.

[GreekGodX]

Floyd and Manny at the Heat game last night http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12239574/floyd-mayweather-jr-manny-pacquiao-courtside-same-miami-heat-game

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8ZiZ-iIIAARN9Q.jpg

[Stephen]

Would have rather seen this 3 years ago, but I will still be happy to see it in May.
Agreed. It'd make my year if Pacquiao had Orlando Bloom as part of his ring entourage and he stomped a mudhole in Bieber's ass for the whole world to see.

[afranco]

Gooo mannyy !!!!!

[GreekGodX]

They also met after the game for an hour...

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=12242720

[icehog3]

Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CEC_Tech]

I might watch, but I ain't paying for it! I'll watch the re-run on HBO. Those two should have fought years ago.

[icehog3]

I might watch, but I ain't paying for it! I'll watch the re-run on HBO. Those two should have fought years ago.

I will definitely watch live, mosty likely at one of the local sports bars that will have it for $5 or $10.

[icehog3]

Promoter Bob Arum said today that Pacquiao-Mayweather will be finalized within 2 to 3 days.

[afranco]

I will pay to watch it !!! Goo Manny

[icehog3]

“MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO DEAL DONE ... Fight Set” read the headline, setting in motion a social media meltdown of the highest order.

There’s one problem: The story was incorrect.

Mayweather shot down the story Saturday, posting a message to his social media (with a photo of himself in a hammock): “Laying back, relaxing, enjoying good weather, palm trees and pina coladas. While they continue to lie about making the fight… I’m just going to continue to travel and explore the world on my private jet. #FightNotMadeYet”

ESPN senior boxing writer Dan Rafael discusses Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s and Manny Pacquiao's private meeting.

Showtime Sports general manager Stephen Espinoza, who is involved in the negotiations, wrote on Twitter after the story was posted, “TMZ usually has good sources. This time, not so much.”

Sources from both sides directly involved in the fight also told ESPN.com that the fight is most definitely not set at this point.

“Not true,” one of the sources said.

Another said of the story, “Absolutely untrue. We still have significant unresolved issues. Nothing is happening before mid next week at the soonest. Not that close on deal terms.”

While many are hopeful the fight will finalized -- May 2 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas is the date and venue if a deal is completed -- there are still a number of issues, mainly on the broadcasting side.

Showtime, which has Mayweather under contract, and HBO, which has a deal with Pacquiao, are trying to work through the details of what would be a joint pay-per-view telecast for what would undoubtedly be the richest fight in boxing history.

[GreekGodX]

Fight is official!! May 2nd :bx

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Manny_zps06cb5e83.jpg (http://s196.photobucket.com/user/icehog3/media/Manny_zps06cb5e83.jpg.html)

Manny: "I must break you:".
Bigmouth: "Go for it".


:wo :wo :wo

[DBall]

Fight is official!! May 2nd :bx

Until Mayweather backs out again! :po

[icehog3]

I think Bigmouth's ego is too big for that, but I guess we will see.

Who's in for Vegas? :D

[mosesbotbol]

Fight is official!! May 2nd :bx

Can't wait! Who do you think will win?

[c2000]

Mayweather will win,,Pacquiao is washed up and he is looking for a final big payday.


Bert Sugar in Minnesota.

[shilala]

The kid says he's gonna order the fight here and split the cost up amongst his buds.
Me and Weeze will throw some money at it, she digs boxing, too.

I think Pacquiao can get under Mayweather. And I don't think the mouth will take him seriously. And I think Mayweather is scared of him.
I'd just like to see a good fight, really. :tu

[DBall]

Can't wait! Who do you think will win?

Bob Arum. :ss

[GreekGodX]

Mayweather wins. What will be interesting to watch is the early rounds. Those are the rounds Mayweather usually gets tagged and he has never seen anyone with Pacquiao's punching speed. Pacquiao could do a lot of damage early and switch things up when Mayweather thinks he knows what Pacquiao is gonna do. It will be close and I think we will see some fireworks.

60-40 money split for Mayweather, that is a big win. Especially when he doesn't have a promotor hanging over his head.

[Genetic Defect]

I think Bigmouth's ego is too big for that, but I guess we will see.

Who's in for Vegas? :D

Is that what you call the man cave?

[icehog3]

THat's what I call the MGM Grand. :)

[Genetic Defect]

that would be an awesome trip to make.

[icehog3]

that would be an awesome trip to make.

F***in' A, Bubba! :tu

[AdamJoshua]

Can't wait! Who do you think will win?

Bob Arum. :ss

^ This

Although they are saying the fighters will take as much as $100 million a piece for this fight. Would have been more exciting if they fought 5 years ago and they were both still young, I would also be happy if Bieber fought in place of Mayweather... I'd even pay to see that one.



Who's in for San Diego! :D

Fixed it for ya, Tom. :tu

[icehog3]

Fixed it for ya, Tom. :tu
They're fighting in San Diego, Adam? :wo

[racerX]

Crazy excited for Saturday night. Good clean fight with no drama other than the match that unfolds. Pretty please.

[afranco]

Im ready for the fight !!! Goooo manny

[mosesbotbol]

Need to figure out which bar(s) near my house will have the fight. I like Mayweather, but it would good to see him lose and make a re-match an even bigger deal (if possible).

[kydsid]

Well guess I got eat crow that this will never happen. Still not paying to watch a Mayweather fight though. I prefer to watch dancing at the ballet. :r

[racerX]

I know big mouth is a dancer and I haven't paid for one of his fights in a long time either, but Freddie roach says they have a strategy. I'm going to my buddy's to smoke cigars and play some croquet. Then eat a big meal and watch this thing. I'll chip in and hope for a great fight. Maybe I'm a fool but I think Floyd has been ducking this guy for a reason. Man, I hope it's as good as I'm thinking it might be.

[icehog3]

I prefer to watch dancing at the ballet. :r

You prefer that to most anything is what I've heard , Jason. :noon

[czerbe]

While I hate Floyd I have to pull for the American, so go Money Team

[AdamJoshua]

I know big mouth is a dancer and I haven't paid for one of his fights in a long time either, but Freddie roach says they have a strategy. I'm going to my buddy's to smoke cigars and play some croquet. Then eat a big meal and watch this thing. I'll chip in and hope for a great fight. Maybe I'm a fool but I think Floyd has been ducking this guy for a reason. Man, I hope it's as good as I'm thinking it might be.

A lot of thought that Floyd didn't want this fight to happen now either, he was making some pretty silly demands of Manny and Manny just agreed to them all, well not the 70 / 30 split or the 65 / 35 split but Manny did agree to 60 / 40 just to get it over with. I'd like to see Manny knock him the eff out, but we'll see.

I just heard the story about Manny running away from home when his family ate his pet dog, talk about growing up poor, I grew up poor but heck at least we had "dented cans" from the grocery store, we never had to eat one of the cats. :|

[hammondc]

I hope Manny destroys Mayweather

[icehog3]

While I hate Floyd I have to pull for the American, so go Money Team

I'd rather pull for a non-American who is a man of honor, than an American who is a complete POS. :2

But hey, that's me. :D

[mosesbotbol]

Maybe I'm a fool but I think Floyd has been ducking this guy for a reason. Man, I hope it's as good as I'm thinking it might be.

I think the only reason is financial. If one thing Floyd knows how to do is make money...

[kydsid]

I think the only reason is financial. If one thing Floyd knows how to do is make money...

Ya from what I heard $180 million even if he loses in the first round. I'd take a dive for that money. :D

[mosesbotbol]

Ya from what I heard $180 million even if he loses in the first round. I'd take a dive for that money. :D

If Mayweather loses in a blockbuster fight of the ages; you can only imagine what re-match will bring in.

[Ashcan Bill]

Regardless of who wins, Vegas will be hopping and raking it in.

The MGM arena only holds around 16,000, but all 300,000 hotel rooms in the city are sold out this weekend. People just want to be here for it. The Riviera is closing forever in four days, but they're getting around $900 per room Friday and Saturday. It was reported the little hotels in Primm, about an hour away, were getting $150 a night instead of their usual $30-$40. If you can even find one, the cheapest seat way up in the nosebleed section is selling for over 4 grand. All the luxury boxes at the clubs are gone. Taxi companies are putting out extra cars. Airlines are staging larger planes than normal for their routes coming/leaving here.

I believe I'll be staying as far away from the Strip as I can this weekend.

I missed Woodstock too. :D

[AdamJoshua]

Just channel surfing and ESPN is live at the weigh-in, I think they just said there are 16,000 in the area just for the weigh-in.

The gloves had to be sent from the manufacturer right to the NV athletic commission for inspection (72 hours ahead of time), the gloves are then locked up till the weigh-in when the fighters can finally try them on and they will mark them so everyone knows they are the same gloves (the fighters mark them), the gloves are then locked up until the fight.

Interesting the tricks fighters use to break down the gloves and try to move the pad away from the knuckles, supposedly the boxing commission will be looking out for that.

Manny uses Reyes gloves made for a puncher with less padding around the knuckles, Floyd uses pussie gloves made for someone with tender hands.. :r

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Manny_zpshrhhdmbz.jpg (http://s196.photobucket.com/user/icehog3/media/Manny_zpshrhhdmbz.jpg.html)

[shilala]

This is gonna be awesome.

[The Poet]

There's a fight tonight? How barbaric.

[icehog3]

Don't worry, Thomas, the Kansas City Royals won't be there. ;)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I'm hoping Pacquiao can get the win, but I'd have to put my money on "money" to win in split d.

[The Poet]

Don't worry, Thomas, the Kansas City Royals won't be there. ;)

Considering their budget, I'm not surprised. They can't afford Atlantic City, much less Vegas on a fight night.

[icehog3]

I'm pulling for Manny too, but like Nate, no way I would put money against Floyd. :(

[AdamJoshua]

Yah it would be like betting against Floyd beating one of his baby mamma, just not a bet you feel confident taking.

[pnoon]

What time is it supposed to start?

[The Poet]

Posted on Yahoo 18 minutes ago, Peter.

For those asking (and there are a lot of you), the PPV has started. The main event between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is supposed to start shortly after 8 p.m. PT

[pnoon]

Posted on Yahoo 18 minutes ago, Peter.

For those asking (and there are a lot of you), the PPV has started. The main event between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is supposed to start shortly after 8 p.m. PT

Fkuc me. That's 11pm ET.
I'm on the east coast at the moment. No effing way I'm stayin up just for the hype . . . I mean fight.
Just as happy to read about it tomorrow.

[AdamJoshua]

Mayweather has hugged Manny more times in 6 rounds than my mom did in my entire life.

[markem]

Mayweather has hugged Manny more times in 6 rounds than my mom did in my entire life.

I did not know that your mother knew Manny.

[AdamJoshua]

A bit of a family secret.

[Stephen]

It's hilarious reading all the celebrities b!tch on Twitter about how boring the fight was. No sh!t, Sherlock. Obviously have never watched a Mayweather fight before.

[Stephen]

Pacquiao - "I thought I won the fight."
Kellerman - "Really? Why did you think you won the fight?"
Pacquiao - "Because he didn't do anything." :r

[icehog3]

What a gyp.

[Ashcan Bill]

Pretty much what I expected, including the unanimous decision.

When you get two aging fighters in the ring, it's a lot easier to be the defensive guy than the aggressor guy, especially when the defensive guy has reach and size on his side.

I thought both guys gave it a good go, fought cleanly and with a minimum of clinching. Personally I enjoyed the fight, and agree with the decision.

Mayweather is on his peak right now. He has no more frontiers in front of him, other than maybe setting spending records in the strip clubs and at the exotic car dealerships around town. Pacquiao on the other hand has a good shot at being president of his country in a few years. I suspect he still has a few chapters to write.

[icehog3]

I agree with the decision as well, Bill, but I was disappointed with the fight. Manny's chances involved volume punching, using angles, and being the better power puncher. He did none of the first two and little of the third.

Agreed that he's the better man, and hoping his life continues to bring him good things.

For Floyd, still hoping someone like Keith Thurman can get lucky and catch him and keep him from the undefeated wins record. But Floyd is smart, and will likely pick someone like Khan, who should be an easier opponent matched up with FDloyd's skills.

[Ashcan Bill]

Yeah, two things did surprise me about the fight.

First, Manny threw less punches than probably any fight he's been in in recent memory. That really shocked me. Maybe his shoulder was hurting him as has been reported, but if that was the case he should have asked for a postponement, not only for his sake but for that of the fans paying all that money. If he was truly injured, going into a fight of that magnitude at half speed was really stupid.

Second was the post fight interviews. Floyd, who we all know has a rather inflated opinion of himself, was actually pretty gracious in what he had to say about Manny. No mouthing off at all. Manny on the other hand came across to me as being very whiny. Not what I expected from either of them. But that's just my two centavos. :D

[AdamJoshua]

Manny Pacquiao will undergo right shoulder surgery later this week to repair a "significant tear" in his rotator cuff, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache told ESPN.com on Monday night.

"We have an MRI scan that confirms he has a rotator cuff tear. He has a significant tear," said ElAttrache, who was still with Pacquiao at his Kerlan Jobe Orthopedic Clinic office in Los Angeles when he spoke to ESPN.com.

ElAttrache said Pacquiao will be out of action between nine months and a year, assuming the surgery and rehabilitation go well.

[Dave128]

I saw on the news this morning that Manny is getting sued because he knew of the injury before the fight. His trainer told him to just take it easy with training for a while and he be good to go for the fight. Looks like he was wrong.

[icehog3]

I want my $99 back. :mad:

[8zeros]

Anyone else here been through a torn rotator cuff and surgery? I have. Significant, they say. A jab or uppercut would be no problem. A cross would be okay if it connected. A miss would have hurt the shoulder bad because the cuff muscle is what stops the arm and pulls it back from a throwing motion. Hits to his shoulder would have hurt and had a bad effect on it, slowing him down. Swinging his arm up and out like to block would have hurt like hell.
I guess I can't blame him for not postponing though. Looks like that may have been his last big fight.

[racerX]

I want my $99 back. :mad:

Me too

[icehog3]

By not postponing the fight, Manny made $120 million, and ripped off everyone who paid to see the fight. :2

[Ashcan Bill]

What's ironic is if he'd just kept his mouth shut instead of whining that he thought he'd won, and his shoulder was hurt, and so on nobody would have known. All he had to say was I gave it my best shot but the other guy was better, thanks everyone, bye now.

Oh well, not exactly the first time boxing has had a bit of controversy. :lr

[icehog3]

5 class action lawsuits filed today, including one in Illinois to get all PPV purchasers their money back. It's a longshot, but if it comes through, hey, that's a box of RASCC. :D

[AdamJoshua]

Well his manager (or whoever) said he was checked by the boxing commission doctors, they were told he had a sore shoulder, they checked his arm movement and all that, said he was fit to fight and that the actual majority of the damage was done during the fight, hard to prove it wasn't, just another waste of court time.

[icehog3]

I don't care, I don't have to testify. :lr