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kelmac07
11-21-2009, 09:26 AM
Anyone had one of these sticks? Would love to hear thoughts from those that have tried it.

How was it?
Flavor?
Worth the $ 25 a stick?
Overhyped?
Would you smoke it again?

SmokinApe
11-21-2009, 09:28 AM
http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?brand=510

Sounds like BS to me... I'd never pay $25 for one...

ChicagoWhiteSox
11-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Ive heard mixed opinions on this cigar, nothing outstanding. IMHO I would get something else for 25 bones a stick.

kelmac07
11-21-2009, 09:29 AM
http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?brand=510

Sounds like BS to me... I'd never pay $25 for one...

I saw that...I don't like to trust Cigar reviews from websites...was looking for an inmates thoughts on this stick. thanks bro!!

Emjaysmash
11-21-2009, 09:35 AM
You can buy em a little cheaper here...

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/proddisp.asp?item=SP-WRAASST4&stext=Camacho%20Pre-Embargo

3 for 40.00

NCRadioMan
11-21-2009, 11:22 AM
How was it? Mediocre
Flavor? Typical Camacho
Worth the $ 25 a stick? No
Overhyped? Is there any hype? If so, yes.
Would you smoke it again? No



Answers in red above.

mariogolbee
11-21-2009, 12:17 PM
How was it? Good, but "different".
Flavor? It had that vintage tobacco taste.
Worth the $ 25 a stick? No. That's why I got the 3 pack from CI.
Overhyped? Hype?
Would you smoke it again? Yes. I got a second coffin of three from CI. I've only had one but I'll keep a few on hand if I can.

Did you need one?:D
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Ratters
11-21-2009, 12:20 PM
Didn't care for it, and I love most things Camacho.

kelmac07
11-21-2009, 12:23 PM
Did you need one?:D
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Curious if it was worth trying...that's all!!

The Poet
11-21-2009, 01:19 PM
Just my :2, and worth every penny, but for $25 you could buy a bundle of decent cigars that would likely contain the exact same amount of "pre-embarge" Cuban tobacco - namely, zero. I have little faith in these claims made every year or two that someone "discovered" a few bales of pre-embargo Cuban leaf that survived not only the half-century preceeding but also the shortage crunch of the Boom years. It does not compute.

tobii3
11-21-2009, 01:29 PM
3 for $39.99.

I'll buy more of these than any Tat Frank/Boris/Drac that's priced the same.

SmokinApe
11-21-2009, 01:32 PM
I think it would be hard to taste tobacco that aged over the corojo wrapper and the other filler and stuff... The thing about truly aged cigars is that they are aged as a cigar, not just one component...

roughrider
11-21-2009, 02:23 PM
I'd rather pick up some Padron or Opus at that price range than take a chance with Camacho.

mariogolbee
11-21-2009, 02:53 PM
I'd rather pick up some Padron or Opus at that price range than take a chance with Camacho.
I'd rather get a little of all three. Mac was asking if they are any good, not if they are better than anything else.:2

Why not have variety? I don't know about anyone else here, but I enjoy trying many different things and I think the PE is worth trying. I found it to have a "different" variety of flavor I couldn't quite put my finger on. For what it is, it's definitely worth at least one try.

TheRiddick
11-21-2009, 03:20 PM
Flavor? It had that vintage tobacco taste.

Just curious what is that "vintage tobacco taste" and how does one identify it?

mariogolbee
11-21-2009, 04:16 PM
Just curious what is that "vintage tobacco taste" and how does one identify it?

Since you seem to be very curious why don't you smoke one and find out? I can't really describe it but it's the same hint of something that I've tried in a few other cigar's with a butt load of age. The Partagas Decadas comes to mind. It was the only good flavor in there. The rest of the Decadas sucked IMO.

SkinsFanLarry
11-21-2009, 04:34 PM
I liked it, good flavor and strength.

I received it from a great brother....would I buy more, yes!

TheRiddick
11-21-2009, 04:41 PM
Mario, I have a smoked a load of old cigars, main reason I was curious about your statement since at no time did any old cigar give me a "vintage" tobacco profile. A certain provenance profile, yes, but at no time "vintage".

And for the price, I will not be buying any of so called "pre-embargo" sticks since there is absolutely nothing 'pre" in them save for open lies in their marketing. I just wish some attorney took Camacho and TTB to court, should be an easy case.

mariogolbee
11-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Mario, I have a smoked a load of old cigars, main reason I was curious about your statement since at no time did any old cigar give me a "vintage" tobacco profile. A certain provenance profile, yes, but at no time "vintage".

And for the price, I will not be buying any of so called "pre-embargo" sticks since there is absolutely nothing 'pre" in them save for open lies in their marketing. I just wish some attorney took Camacho and TTB to court, should be an easy case.
Interesting. I was unaware that one could get a "provenance" profile from smoking a cigar. I thought provenance would likely be obtained from documentation. I was trying to describe to the best of MY unexperienced ability what I could in an attempt to be helpful.

I'm glad you cleared up your intentions because I simply thought you were being a smart a$$. I'm certainly glad you've cleared this up for me though. I do think it is sad that you would wish ill will upon another with your attorney comment though. perhaps if you feel so strongly about the PE issue you should become proactively involved in it.

sodomanaz
11-21-2009, 05:20 PM
Anyone had one of these sticks? Would love to hear thoughts from those that have tried it.

How was it?
Flavor?
Worth the $ 25 a stick?
Overhyped?
Would you smoke it again?

I bought about 12 of these during a cigar.com one day deal. Paid around $3 or 4 a stick if I remember correctly. They've been sitting for nearly a year.

It was an ok cigar. It had a different taste, but nothing I would consider to be Cuban.

There was a hint of something I couldn't put my finger on. Not sure if that was good or bad.

Definitely not worth $25 a stick. $3-5 is what I would sit it at.

Nothing really special.

Would I smoke it again? I still have three left just sitting. So probably.

NCRadioMan
11-21-2009, 05:47 PM
Interesting. I was unaware that one could get a "provenance" profile from smoking a cigar. I thought provenance would likely be obtained from documentation. I was trying to describe to the best of MY unexperienced ability what I could in an attempt to be helpful.

I'm glad you cleared up your intentions because I simply thought you were being a smart a$$. I'm certainly glad you've cleared this up for me though. I do think it is sad that you would wish ill will upon another with your attorney comment though. perhaps if you feel so strongly about the PE issue you should become proactively involved in it.

Most of the time Mario, I can tell the provenance of a puro. Whether it's Cuban, Honduran or from Nica. Doms and Nica's can fool me though. Provenance is just knowing origin.

As for the the pre-embargo part, I have heard that they did have a little of actual pre-embargo tobacco but have to put very, very little in the cigar. Like a pinch worth. Rather a sprinkle of, what is essentially, tobacco dust in the center of the cigar so they can call it "pre-embargo". I do believe these "pre-embargo" cigars do contain pre-embargo tobacco but you can't actually taste it because it's such a timy amount. Calling them "pre-embargo" cigars is nothing but a sales gimmick not unlike many that are used for all kinds of cigars. It does bother me that a novice will think that this is what a pre-embargo cigar tastes like though.

stearns
11-21-2009, 05:52 PM
i agree with what a member on an old board hypothesized about these (sorry, i forget who), that there is most likely some old PE leaves that they have, most likely in a dust form now, that they put a little in each cigar to keep the name alive. the only way tobacco would have survived from the embargo to now would be in a cigar, not the leaves themselves. there is no backing to this claim, just a hypothesis that i subscribe to

stearns

stearns
11-21-2009, 05:53 PM
err... his post wasnt up yet when i made mine, but i agree ^^^

stearns

ambientboy
12-02-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm interested in this stick as well. Not enough to pay $25 for it though. Either way, these pre-embargo claims seem ridiculous.

heavyd
12-02-2009, 09:26 PM
These regularly go for less than $10 per stick on the devil site and the three pack sells for less than $30 on average. Don't pay the $40 CI is selling it for... please.

Actually, this cigar tastes like a Camcho Liberty "Lite" to me. Somewhat similar profile, but less of everything that's good. Spend two or three dollars more and pass these up for the Liberty :2

Skywalker
12-02-2009, 09:31 PM
Didn't care for it, and I love most things Camacho.

I listen to Ratters when it comes to anything Camacho!!!:tu