Diesel "Unholy Coctail" [Archive] - Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Zanaspus

11-10-2009, 04:24 PM

Alright, if I've learned anything so far, it's to let cigars rest a bit after receiving them. That being said, these showed up on my doorstep today, and they were just so damned beautiful I had to sin. There's only one vitola out there, so I won't bore you with the details.

Prelight: This thing is gorgeous; dark, oily, and a prelight aroma...let's just say I grew up in the county due north of Lancaster so I know that the Amish use only "natural" fertilizer. This thing smelled like a drive through Lancaster County on a bright spring day. "Barnyard" does not come close to doing it justice.

Let me regress by say I normally am not a big fan of torpedoes as I've found the draw can often be dodgy, but this one was nothing short of perfect. Not much flavor apart from tobacco on the prelight draw.

First 1/3: This kicked off with a bit of spice, which is normal, and serious double espresso. Normally, when people say "coffee," what I get is bitter, but no, this is like sitting at a cafe sipping fresh, well-made espresso. The spice quickly fades, and it is just a wonderful espresso for the rest of the third.

Second 1/3: Almost on queue, the flavor morphs into earth, raisin and dark cocoa. Wow! This baby is just doing nothing short of putting a smile on my face.

Final 1/3: Again, almost on queue, as if the cigar were saying "Please review me in thirds," the flavor changes. The earth and cocoa become serious leather which just builds stronger down to the nub. The raisin goes into pepper. Serious pepper! Black pepper, red pepper, white pepper...did I forget some colors of pepper? They were there too. I nubbed this bad boy like no tomorrow.

It did have some burn issues, but nothing to be unexpected of a smoke ROTT, and certainly nothing to detract from my one hour and 45 minute love-affair.

Value: Depending on source and resourcefulness, this can be had for $2.50 to $3.33/stick. Oh so worth it at twice the price. A new entry, and number 20 in my top 5 by my count. :dr

I am in love with this cigar!

Would I buy it again? And again...and again...

Did I mention I loved this cigar?

Kreth

11-10-2009, 04:46 PM

Thanks for the review. MrOneEyedBoh bombed me with one of these and I'm letting it rest a bit.
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Skywalker

11-10-2009, 04:46 PM

I saw these on sale a few days ago but passed due to the lack of information!!!

Thank you for the review!:tu

Now I need to wait for another sale!!!

dannysguitar

11-10-2009, 04:59 PM

Mine arrive tomorrow, I can't wait to light them up!

tenbaseg

11-10-2009, 05:37 PM

Great review. Thank you. You've got me very curious about trying one of these.

acarr

11-10-2009, 05:41 PM

This is something I have never heard of but I am also interested in trying one of these now.

SkinsFanLarry

11-10-2009, 05:51 PM

CI has them for $99.95 for a box of 30.

"Unholy Cocktail" Torpedo (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/proddisp.asp?item=CS-J6B&stext=DIESEL)

(do not confuse this Diesel cigar with the one that was put out by Rocky Patel several years back!)

SkinsFanLarry

11-10-2009, 05:55 PM

Here's a little more about them from Cigar.com....

One of A.J. Fernandez's most recent gems, Diesel exudes a ton of full-flavors in a medium to full-bodied format allowing for a stout, complex experience with perfect balance.

Abdel "AJ" Fernandez is the protégé of Don Alejandro Robaina, the man who is considered to be the “Godfather” of tobacco. After spending most of his life studying in Cuba under Don Alejandro, Abdel Fernandez moved to Nicaragua to begin producing his own cigars. After only 6 years, Abdel currently produces Rocky Patel’s Fusion, Indian Tabac 10th Anniversary, Padilla Habano, Sol Cubano Cuban Cabinet, Man O' War and Man O' War Ruination, all of which received rave reviews.

Only available in a stout 5"x56 belicoso, Diesel exudes a unique leathery and spicy flavor with a toasty core of espresso beans. The package has a classic, rustic look while the blend is perfectly balanced and will appeal to any aficionado who appreciates premium tobacco. Boasting fillers from Nicaragua's Jalapa, Condega and Esteli regions, each and every leaf is aged for three years, then concealed with a dark and oily Pennsylvania Broadleaf wrapper. This is one unique cigar you're sure to love.

BeerAdvocate

11-10-2009, 06:24 PM

I knew I shouldnt have passed these up! :(

Starscream

11-10-2009, 06:29 PM

number 20 in my top 5 by my count. :dr

:confused:

Thanks for the review. I've been wanting to try this one.:tu

kelmac07

11-10-2009, 06:34 PM

Sounds like my kind of stick...pepper, pepper, and more pepper!! :tu Just ordered a 5er!!! Thanks for the tip!! :tu

s15driftking

11-10-2009, 06:48 PM

Damn, i want one now!!!

poriggity

11-10-2009, 06:49 PM

I should have 10 of these waiting for me tomorrow when I get to work. Can't wait!
Scott

Zanaspus

11-10-2009, 07:16 PM

A new entry, and number 20 in my top 5 by my count. :dr

:confused:

:r
This goes back to my first love, music. At several points in my life I've wanted to complile a 10 best songs of all times list, but I came to realize that this changes with time, mood, etc. So when I hear a great song now, I say, "This is one of the 1000 10 greatest songs of all times.

I figure someday soon, I'll have a 100 top fives cigars of all times. :tu

kenstogie

11-10-2009, 07:24 PM

I always seriously consider the AJ Fernandez blends.

Starscream

11-10-2009, 08:36 PM

:confused:

:r
This goes back to my first love, music. At several points in my life I've wanted to complile a 10 best songs of all times list, but I came to realize that this changes with time, mood, etc. So when I hear a great song now, I say, "This is one of the 1000 10 greatest songs of all times.

I figure someday soon, I'll have a 100 top fives cigars of all times. :tu

:tu

roughrider

11-10-2009, 09:36 PM

I'm curious about these too. Thanks for the review.

AlohaStyle

11-10-2009, 10:25 PM

Thanks for the mouth watering review! I also have 10 coming to me in the mail and can't wait!

captain53

11-11-2009, 08:08 AM

Good Review, I keep hearing about these and they are a regular CI special but I can never find enough info to make me bite. Now I will definitely bite on the next good buy offer.:tu

cwfrasa

11-11-2009, 10:24 AM

Tony,

Thanks for the review. I too am a fellow sinner as my order showed up yesterday too. The first stick didnt even make it in the house....

Everything in the review was spot on to my exp. Cant wait to try these with a bit of rest on them.....

Azpostal

11-11-2009, 01:17 PM

Thanks for the great review. I'm going to have to get some of these now.

poriggity

11-11-2009, 05:12 PM

WOOT my 10 pack is here! Not gonna get to smoke one till tomorrow though :(

longknocker

11-11-2009, 05:25 PM

Smoked One Today After 2 weeks Rest! Very Similar To Original Man O' War, IMO. Doesn't Seem To Need As Much Rest, Though. Great Smoke!:tu

poriggity

11-12-2009, 12:54 PM

Just smoked one on my lunch break. Essentially ROTT.. GREAT cigar. wonderful flavors and spice, and this review is spot on. By the time I was 3/4" into the cigar, I was already contemplating a box purchase. I think I might pull the trigger in a couple days.
Scott

kelmac07

11-12-2009, 01:09 PM

My 5'er just arrived!! :tu

marge796

11-12-2009, 01:21 PM

I need to try this bad boy!

SkinsFanLarry

11-12-2009, 01:26 PM

My 5'er just arrived!! :tu

Kev, make sure you let us know what "you" think about it!

kelmac07

11-12-2009, 01:35 PM

Kev, make sure you let us know what "you" think about it!

Larry...who the hell is Kev? :r

Will do brother!! :tu

SkinsFanLarry

11-12-2009, 01:52 PM

It's Thursday afternoon, it's been raining for two days and it's windy and cold....hell, I don't know Mac!

kelmac07

11-12-2009, 01:55 PM

It's Thursday afternoon, it's been raining for two days and it's windy and cold....hell, I don't know Mac!

I feel ya there...backyard is a swimming pool. Lost one of my gazeebos to the storm last night (looks like a pretzel). I'll be damned if I am going out in this crap. I'll clean it up once the rain stops. Stay dry brother!! :D

Scothew

11-18-2009, 03:57 PM

This thing smelled like a drive through Lancaster County on a bright spring day. "Barnyard" does not come close to doing it justice.

I just had 5 show up today and I had to unwrap one to see what it smelled like and I am still :r at the fact that you are dead on right. Smells just like the barnyard petting area at the zoo :D

lopro

11-18-2009, 05:01 PM

jeez, I gotta try one after that glowing review.

I'll keep my ear to the ground for any sales (I don't want to commit to a box of 30 even if $99 seems a good price)

longknocker

11-18-2009, 06:09 PM

jeez, I gotta try one after that glowing review.

I'll keep my ear to the ground for any sales (I don't want to commit to a box of 30 even if $99 seems a good price)
Check The Devil Site. Got A Box for $85.:tu

gbum

11-18-2009, 07:53 PM

nice review tony,would appreciate if you can put some pictures to share with us.Thanks :)

poriggity

11-18-2009, 08:24 PM

Check The Devil Site. Got A Box for $85.:tu

Yup, pulled a box for $87 myself :)
Scott

lopro

11-24-2009, 12:53 AM

http://cigar.com/dailydeal/cccigardeals.asp

ask and ye shall receive... for those who are afraid of a dirty thirty...

(I just picked up 2... damn their "free shipping" offer)

MrOneEyedBoh

11-24-2009, 01:03 AM

Yeah gotta love these.

Don Fernando

11-24-2009, 03:11 AM

this is a cigar that is high on my to try list, heard so many good things about it.

kelmac07

11-24-2009, 04:17 AM

This little spice bomb of a stick is fantastic. Has that slap you in the face pepper bite that I love in my sticks. Glad I picked up two more 5ers. This stick just cracked into my top ten. :tu :tu

Trex

11-24-2009, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the review. I have some coming tomorrow and just in time for the thanksgiving holiday.

Ken

11-25-2009, 07:52 AM

Great review. Was eyeing some and now will have to take a closer look with a finger on the trigger.

eboniknight

12-01-2009, 01:37 PM

Great review. I've got one just waiting for me to try!!

Whynot

12-16-2009, 12:40 AM

For the price , these may be my new unbeatable smoke. I tried one ROTP(Plane) last week and it was fairly good. I tried another last night after less than a week in the cooler, and I was rewarded with over 1.5 hours of relaxation. I am not so great at picking out flavors, but the experience was most enjoyable. I did not even realize that almost 2 hours had passed, and I had to get up for work in less than 6 hours. I may do it again tonight, it was worth it

SouthernSmoke

12-16-2009, 12:43 AM

They are phenomenal smokes for the price. AJ Fernandez has put out a mighty fine smoke for sure. If only they would get put as the daily cigar deal again. Can't beat 5er's for 13.95 a piece on these babies!

rlmedic

12-16-2009, 08:44 AM

They are great.... Box of 30 $99 = $3.30 a stick you can't go wrong.

kenstogie

12-17-2009, 09:35 AM

Keep your eye on that AJ Fernandez, mark my words.

mrreindeer

12-17-2009, 09:45 AM

Thank you for the review...been seeing them in the catalogs but have yet to pull the trigger.

paris1129

12-17-2009, 11:31 AM

I've been hearing a lot about these recently, but have yet to try one. The comments here have convinced me to pick some up the next time a deal rolls around.

Kreth

12-17-2009, 09:46 PM

Keep your eye on that AJ Fernandez, mark my words.
Shhhhh. I kinda like the fact that you can pick up several of his blends cheap. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here... :r
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bigheadmark

12-27-2009, 03:56 PM

Um yeah, I will definitely say that this cigar is one of my favorites!! an exceptional cigar indeed

paris1129

12-27-2009, 09:55 PM

Okay. I haven't tried one yet, but based on the positive comments here, I just pulled the trigger on a box of these! I can't wait to try it!

bigheadmark

12-28-2009, 03:41 PM

awesome! and these are a steal at a little over $3.00 a stick...I have smoked cigars that cost 3x as much and don't come close to the Diesel

shvictor

12-29-2009, 11:11 AM

I love these things

paris1129

12-29-2009, 12:07 PM

awesome! and these are a steal at a little over $3.00 a stick...I have smoked cigars that cost 3x as much and don't come close to the Diesel

I was able to pick up a box of 30 for $90.00 shipped. Seems like a great price on these! I can't wait to try them! :ss

paris1129

12-30-2009, 03:40 PM

Just got my box today! Do you guys that have purchased a box of these leave them wrapped in a bundle in the box, or do you take them out and place them with singles?

bigheadmark

12-30-2009, 03:55 PM

I take them out and let them acclimate to the proper RH in my humidor..In my experience, cigars that arrive in the mail are usually too wet to smoke for me...
I either dry box them, or place them in the humidor..either way I take them out of the box...
BTW, keep your humidor at 65% RH....trust me, your cigars will smell/taste/smoke much better

MrOneEyedBoh

12-30-2009, 04:30 PM

You can leave them in the box. some say it helps them to age better. But if your not going to age them, then take em out.

Don Fernando

12-30-2009, 05:36 PM

I just smoked one that Fissure send me, I like it a lot.

dragon0708

01-03-2010, 10:07 AM

I gonna have to pick one up and try it after all this talk about the Diesel. It sounds like it will be worth the purchase.

Salvelinus

01-03-2010, 05:51 PM

Was looking at these by chance today, mostly because of the attention grabbing name. Sounds like they are worth a try. I figured with that name it was trickery to get buyers.

Homebrewer

01-04-2010, 06:55 AM

I hate to be the lone nay-sayer here but I've had a couple and they're just okay. I'd try a few before a box purchase.

bigheadmark

01-04-2010, 08:54 AM

I hate to be the lone nay-sayer here but I've had a couple and they're just okay. I'd try a few before a box purchase.

Did you smoke them right off the truck? or did you let them rest fora few days first? that can make a huge difference...
IMO, cigars are much better if kept at 65% RH, as opposed to 70% RH...

Zanaspus

01-04-2010, 09:41 AM

I hate to be the lone nay-sayer here but I've had a couple and they're just okay. I'd try a few before a box purchase.

Never fear being a naysayer. :) If we all had the same tastes, there's be a lot fewer sticks to sample. :r Everyone seems to love the Brick House, but my reaction to it is like yours to this. :tu

paris1129

01-06-2010, 06:22 PM

Finally tried on out of the box I recently acquired. This was a great cigar! Paired well with some Woodford Reserve Master's Collection!

tenbaseg

01-06-2010, 07:19 PM

I smoked my 2nd one today. Perfect burn and really tasty. They sure do pack a punch. The spice tends to mellow a bit toward the middle but never really goes away. For $3 and change, it's a pretty solid smoke.

Whynot

01-06-2010, 11:02 PM

I just smoked one that Fissure send me, I like it a lot.

I should be back in Germany sometime in Feb, and I have several boxes waiting there. I'll have to send a couple your way because we all know you have to try at least a couple to form an informed opinion.:D

nater

02-28-2010, 04:12 PM

on the devil site for 87 quick bid... I have a box on the way!

jaydub13

02-28-2010, 05:28 PM

Wow... Thanks for the review! I am DYING to try one of these now!

quantim0

02-28-2010, 06:01 PM

I am going to try a few next time I put an order in online. They sound like a great stick. Thanks for the review.

MortonMilo

03-02-2010, 01:32 PM

I'd already purchased these, with my box on the way, when I came across this review. Quite excited to dig into it, and with 30 at my disposal, I might be tempted to smoke one in my building's mailroom, but let the rest cool off for a bit.

Thanks!

SkinsFanLarry

03-02-2010, 03:27 PM

I hate to be the lone nay-sayer here but I've had a couple and they're just okay. I'd try a few before a box purchase.

I guess we're together on this one. Let it sit two months @ 65% and I didn't like the taste of it at all! I won't be buying anymore.

bishjd123

03-03-2010, 07:04 PM

I had one of these last night and I thought the initial review was pretty much spot on even though my was ROTT. I'm going to stash the other 29 sticks for a bit.

fuente~fuente

03-03-2010, 07:28 PM

I've smoked 3 that I've been bombed with, & really have enjoyed them. Hard to beat at the price. I picked up a 5'er just this morning with a free shipping code, so I snagged them for $20... Which IMO is a steal for this smoke.:tu

14holestogie

03-03-2010, 10:23 PM

Joe's got them on the daily deal today, 10 for 29.99 and free shipping.

Adriftpanda

03-03-2010, 10:26 PM

Hurry up mailman with my damn diesels!

Looking forward to seeing what the hype is all about. Heard some good things and some not so good things. So, we'll see. Thanks for the review!

tenbaseg

03-04-2010, 05:44 AM

Joe Cigar has these up today for the daily deal. 10 for $30 w/ free shipping.

MortonMilo

03-04-2010, 07:18 AM

tenbaseg, thanks for the heads up. compliments on your greenman suit, btw.

SinPena!

03-04-2010, 11:08 AM

Joe's got them on the daily deal today, 10 for 29.99 and free shipping.

Thanks for the info.............just ordered mine last night!

TonySmith

03-04-2010, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the review. I should have a box arriving tomorrow

colinb913

03-04-2010, 04:34 PM

Box got here a few days ago, I can't wait to smoke one tonight!!!!

e-man67

03-04-2010, 05:40 PM

I was given one by brother Wayne80 (thanks Wayne) which he lets his stuff sit...the stick he gave to me I let sit for 1 1/2 months and I am smoking it now....the only flavor I get is burnt bitterness...I think it is harsh...nothing like the Liga Privada 52 I smoked last nite which was very good.

Thrak

03-04-2010, 06:46 PM

I'll let you guys know in a few days... thanks Joe!! :D

Adriftpanda

03-06-2010, 06:53 PM

SinPena!

03-08-2010, 05:39 PM

MiamiE

03-08-2010, 05:43 PM

SinPena!

03-08-2010, 09:40 PM

Just received mine! Will try one out tonight....................

That was a good smoke...........it was consistant!:tu

saggel

03-09-2010, 04:47 AM

I've just ordered my first fiver in a split in here thanx to Mario !!!

Kreth

03-09-2010, 06:05 AM

Scored a box from cbid (and a box of LHCs). I noticed the QB price was a couple bucks higher this time around.
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nater

03-09-2010, 08:39 AM

My box arrived from Cbid... I will let them sit for a few days then try one... cant wait!

fuente~fuente

03-09-2010, 10:52 AM

My box arrived from Cbid... I will let them sit for a few days then try one... cant wait!

Ditto... Mine arrived a few days ago. I'm itching, but I am trained in the Jedi arts of Humi Patience.:D

JohnnyKay5

03-09-2010, 11:46 AM

thanks for the review.. i just scored a 5er on the devil site. cant wait to try them

Thrak

03-09-2010, 05:01 PM

smoking one now... initial thoughts are

Yummy
Lots of smoke
Crazy burn..

Had 3 days in the humi from delivery..

will add more as I get through it. :)

Thrak

03-09-2010, 05:45 PM

very smooth.. lots of smoke... good flavors, not many changes thru the smoke tho.. burn evend out and stayed sharp

Rule #1 with these... DONT PURGE.. holy crap I almost lost an eyebrow!!!!

really enjoyed this, wish I had more than I have... may be hitting up the devil site. :D

elderboy02

03-09-2010, 05:47 PM

...wish I had more than I have... may be hitting up the devil site. :D

I have some for sale in the WTS forum ;)

Kreth

03-10-2010, 10:57 AM

If anyone's interested, this lot (http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/lot.cfm?lotID=862547) still has two boxes available slightly below the regular CI price. It ends tonight.
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big a

03-10-2010, 02:23 PM

I just got done smoking this stick and your review is dead on! The only difference I had was the pepper faded away rather quickly in the first third but I was happy and pleased it did. +1 on a great review and great stick.

BeachBonsai

03-10-2010, 06:00 PM

Okay, so I just smoked mine... not very impressed with it. Thought the construction was nice, burn was nice, but flavor wise, not very thrilled with it. I don't want to say one dimensional but it was very woodsy throughout the entire smoke, had a few hints of coffee/mocha but other than that, I was not too impressed.

I am not a fan of Pennsylvania broadleaf, it was used in place of Connecticut
broadleaf during the "Cigar Boom Era" 1993 through 1997 wasn't a fan of it then or now. I recall it was used in many machine made cigars.

It seems to me that the company's using it are trying to hit a price point
at or under $3.00. It is not for me I am past the point of trying to find a cheep daily smoke, as said many times before "Life and time is too short to smoke cheep cigars"

The good side is a myriad of cigars out there now which was not available when I started smoking

nater

03-10-2010, 10:14 PM

I just smoked the first one out of my box... While not the best smoke ever... An honest good smoke! Had a strong barnyard smell out of the box, it was mellow and picked up a bit of spice in the last 1/3rd. Nice smoke volume and was well balanced, although not a ton of flavor complexity. I will easily finish the box and most likely order another box if they are all this decent.

Thrak

03-11-2010, 05:10 AM

It is not for me I am past the point of trying to find a cheep daily smoke, as said many times before "Life and time is too short to smoke cheep cigars"

I really hope you mean "life is too short to smoke bad cigars", because 'cheep' and bad are not always the same thing... plenty of cheap, good smokes available these days...

of course maybe you do mean 'cheep' and you enjoy your cigar with a bunch of birds :r

SinPena!

03-11-2010, 11:13 AM

I really hope you mean "life is too short to smoke bad cigars", because 'cheep' and bad are not always the same thing... plenty of cheap, good smokes available these days...

of course maybe you do mean 'cheep' and you enjoy your cigar with a bunch of birds :r

I think you mean Cheap.......................:r

buttah

03-15-2010, 12:52 PM

First I'll say, good review I enjoyed reading it. These Pennsylvania Maduros with a lot of ligero filler seem to be a growing trend. RP has a few of them(Winter, Patel Bros, etc). I by no stretch of the imagination have a refined pallete but I know what I like.
To me these cigars are lacking in complexity and flavor. I agree it starts off spicy but after that it blends together and loses something. I've only found one Penn Maduro that I've enjoyed so far and its exclusive to my local B&M.
That said its a quality smoke it just doesn't have that "something" I look for in a cigar. I wouldn't turn one down but I wouldn't buy any either. JMHO.

wayner123

03-17-2010, 06:55 AM

I wouldn't turn one down but I wouldn't buy any either. JMHO.

That's about the conclusion I have come to as well. I think for my money I can find better quality smokes.

I will say that this is the first cigar I have smoked that smelt exactly like a horse stall pre-light. I even let my wife, who was raised around horses, smell it and she was amazed at how it smelt exactly like a horse stall.

nater

03-17-2010, 10:16 AM

That's about the conclusion I have come to as well. I think for my money I can find better quality smokes.

I will say that this is the first cigar I have smoked that smelt exactly like a horse stall pre-light. I even let my wife, who was raised around horses, smell it and she was amazed at how it smelt exactly like a horse stall.

It does have an amazing barnyard smell... Everyone who has smelled them remarks on the same thing!