Yankees vs. Phillies W.S. 2009

[RJK18]

Too Soon?

[Blueface]

:r:r:r

Please don't jinx it. Please!!!

[feznuk]

Probably not after that inning...that was 6 in a hurry.

[RJK18]

I think a NY vs Philly WS would be alot of fun.

[feznuk]

It certainly has the makings to be one heck of a show.

[MedicCook]

Too Soon?

I think YES.

I blame you. :r

[PeteSB75]

Hell of a game last night.

[yourchoice]

It's not too soon as far as I'm concerned. :D

Jinx away gentlemen (although I'd prefer the Phils to play the Skankees in the WS)

[yachties23]

I think a NY vs Philly WS would be alot of fun.

As a Met fan it is the absolute worst thing that could happen.

[Blueface]

I think YES.

I blame you. :r

Me too!!!

[The Poet]

As a Met fan it is the absolute worst thing that could happen.

Worse than the spanking Yanks gave you back in '00? :D

[Blueface]

Worse than the spanking Yanks gave you back in '00? :D

That wasn't a spanking. They won one game.:r

[RJK18]

Its official, Let's Go yankees!!!

[RJK18]

I wonder which Brad Lidge will show up?

[VirtualSmitty]

First game is going to be a battle of former Indians pitchers, Lee vs Sabathia :r

[MedicCook]

It is going to be a great World Series. Both these teams can hit the ball a long way. Hopefully the Yankees pitchers can shut the Phillies down.

[VirtualSmitty]

It is going to be a great World Series. Both these teams can hit the ball a long way. Hopefully the Yankees pitchers can shut the Phillies down.

Definitely gonna be a good series. First time since 1950 the Yanks and Phils have met in the WS, maybe we'll get some of those Mets fans to root for us now :D

[MedicCook]

Definitely gonna be a good series. First time since 1950 the Yanks and Phils have met in the WS, maybe we'll get some of those Mets fans to root for us now :D

I don't see it happening. Mets fans hate the Yankees more than they hate the Phillies.

[wavescrashing]

This is gonna be a hell of a series. I'm calling the Phillies here at 4-2

[MedicCook]

Yankees in 6.

[VirtualSmitty]

Yankees in 6.

Yea, that's that i'm thinking too.

[MedicCook]

They need to finish it at home. It is only right.

[VirtualSmitty]

They need to finish it at home. It is only right.

My thoughts exactly! :tu

[MedicCook]

They announced tonight that George will be at the Stadium for the World Series.

[VirtualSmitty]

They announced tonight that George will be at the Stadium for the World Series.

That's good to hear, was strange not seeing him there to accept the ALCS championship trophy. Hal just isn't the same as the Boss.

[darkninja67]

This could be a great series.
Phillies are gamers and have a good line up and pitching. Should be well matched. I think our offense will really wake up this series though especially with RISP.

[kelmac07]

This should be a GREAT offensive series. Both parks are extremely hitter friendly. Bullpen nod goes to the Yanks. Fasten those seat belts, should be a good one.

[RJK18]

Let's see seven games and a parade down the Canyon of Heros. I want as much baseball as I can get.

[feznuk]

Let's see seven games and a parade down the Canyon of Heros. I want as much baseball as I can get.

:tpd: Except the parade route will be North on Broad, Right onto Pattison then hook a Left into the stadium.:D

[yourchoice]

Congratulations to the Yanks making it to the World Series. I am very excited about this matchup, it should be a great series to watch.

Prediction? Phillies in 5.

GO PHILLIES!!!

[ade06]

I'm going with Phillies in 6!!!

[Blueface]

Prediction? Phillies in 5.



WHAT???
Come on. Seriously?
The best team in baseball in 2009 based on record was the Yankees.
The only team to win over 100 games.
The batting arsenal they have?
The pitching?
The bullpen?

I see the Phillies as an admirable opponent as I did the Angels. No doubt that while I think I can safely argue why the Yankees are the better team, no way would I ever think the Yankees can pull this off in 5.

There is a fan and then there is a blind fan.:r
Phillies in 5. That there is some seriously funny chit!!!

[Blueface]

I'm going with Phillies in 6!!!

Another dreamer.:r

[ade06]

Another dreamer.:r

I'm an Orioles fan at heart, so I don't really have a horse in the race (full disclaimer… I do live in Philadelphia)… The Phillies have a soild team and are exciting to watch, and the Yankees, well… not so much. Don't forget, the Phillies are the defending World Champions! The Yankees… again, not so much. :ss

[MedicCook]

This will be a tough Series. Both teams are match up well. It will definately be a knock down fight.

[Blueface]

I'm an Orioles fan at heart, so I don't really have a horse in the race (full disclaimer… I do live in Philadelphia)… The Phillies have a soild team and are exciting to watch, and the Yankees, well… not so much. Don't forget, the Phillies are the defending World Champions! The Yankees… again, not so much. :ss

:r:r:r

Yeah, Phillies won last year.
In the decade of 2000, the Yankees are now in their third World Series. Hmmm....
In their history, they are now in their 40th. Hmmm.... Of which they have won 26. Hmmm....
In 2009, the Yankees won 103 games, the Phillies 93. My simple math says we won 10 more.

I'll bite even further.
Here are the 2009 stats for both on things that shed "excitement".

Runs Phillies 820 Yankees 915
Hits Phillies 1439 Yankees 1604
HRs Phillies 224 Yankees 244
RBI Phillies 788 Yankees 881
Avg. Phillies .258 Yankees .283
Slugging Phillies .447 Yankees .478

Add 103 wins to 93 and I can clearly see why you think the Phillies are a more exciting team.:r As I said earlier, blind.

[Blueface]

This will be a tough Series. Both teams are match up well. It will definately be a knock down fight.

No way.
Phillies in 5.:r

[yourchoice]

WHAT???
Come on. Seriously?
The best team in baseball in 2009 based on record was the Yankees.
The only team to win over 100 games.
The batting arsenal they have?
The pitching?
The bullpen?

I see the Phillies as an admirable opponent as I did the Angels. No doubt that while I think I can safely argue why the Yankees are the better team, no way would I ever think the Yankees can pull this off in 5.

There is a fan and then there is a blind fan.:r
Phillies in 5. That there is some seriously funny chit!!!

You know Carlos, I knew I'd probably catch some flack for that...I could have taken the high road and played it safe predicting a 6 or 7 game series, but I went with the bold prediction instead. The Phillies have won 16 out of their last 20 playoff games and I hope they can continue that dominance. I'd rather have a .800 win percentage in the playoffs than a .636 regular season record any day.

And like you I feel I can safely argue who the better team is. We just may not agree on the team. :D Batter for batter, pitcher for pitcher. If the back end of the Phillies bullpen can hold it together, I see the Phillies in 5. I know that's a big "if", but that's what makes a prediction a prediction. The Yankees have the best postseason relief pitcher in the history of baseball, no doubt about it. But aside from him, what I've seen from the other relievers in the post season has been less than stellar.

[MedicCook]

We could take this back to 3rd grade level.

Yankees Rule and the Phillies Drool. :r

[Blueface]

You know Carlos, I knew I'd probably catch some flack for that...I could have taken the high road and played it safe predicting a 6 or 7 game series, but I went with the bold prediction instead. The Phillies have won 16 out of their last 20 playoff games and I hope they can continue that dominance. I'd rather have a .800 win percentage in the playoffs than a .636 regular season record any day.

And like you I feel I can safely argue who the better team is. We just may not agree on the team. :D Batter for batter, pitcher for pitcher. If the back end of the Phillies bullpen can hold it together, I see the Phillies in 5. I know that's a big "if", but that's what makes a prediction a prediction. The Yankees have the best postseason relief pitcher in the history of baseball, no doubt about it. But aside from him, what I've seen from the other relievers in the post season has been less than stellar.

I disagree on the less than stellar pitching. Other than really one game, they did the job.
I already posted stats on both teams. If a better team is measured by hits, home runs, batting average, slugging percentage and overall wins, only a Phillies fan can argue their team is the best.
Time will tell. I am just not a blind fan that can't see the two best teams in the league are facing each other and as I have said statistically, the Yankees ARE the better team. Please show me something else on paper as I did here that shows the contrary. I just think it is blind and loony to not respect the Yankees as a formidable force and think this can end in 5 games, with a Phillies win, when again, they are statistically the better team.
I have seen crazier things happen but I have also tried to fart and paint it green and haven't been able to.

[Starscream]

Go NL!

[ade06]

:r:r:r

Yeah, Phillies won last year.
In the decade of 2000, the Yankees are now in their third World Series. Hmmm....
In their history, they are now in their 40th. Hmmm.... Of which they have won 26. Hmmm....
In 2009, the Yankees won 103 games, the Phillies 93. My simple math says we won 10 more.

I'll bite even further.
Here are the 2009 stats for both on things that shed "excitement".

Runs Phillies 820 Yankees 915
Hits Phillies 1439 Yankees 1604
HRs Phillies 224 Yankees 244
RBI Phillies 788 Yankees 881
Avg. Phillies .258 Yankees .283
Slugging Phillies .447 Yankees .478

Add 103 wins to 93 and I can clearly see why you think the Phillies are a more exciting team. As I said earlier, blind.

Noting that I am not the defender of the Phillies. Stats don't always equate to wins (or your definition on "things that shed excitement"). While the Yankees are the stat champs, the Phillies are the current World Champs and will be the 2009 World Champs as well. I'll smoke a good one during the victory parade in Philadelphia after game 6. :ss :ss

[floydpink]

Any of the confident Philly fans care to back it up with a wager? Let's call it a 5er of Habanos?

Talk is cheap, Habanos are yummy!

[MedicCook]

The Yankees also lead MLB in comeback wins and walk off wins this season. How is that not exciting?

[Blueface]

or your definition on "things that shed excitement").

I was simply addressing your point the Phillies are a more exciting team.
If the Yankees get more hits, more runs, better batting average, better slugging average, and more wins, how can one say the Phillies are more exciting unless you have very dark glasses in a very dark room. What then constitutes excitement may be the question to ask.

If the Phillies win, they will have beaten the best team in baseball in 2009 and will tip my hat to them. I just won't insult them or any Phillies fan by thinking it could be done in 5 or 6. This is not the first two rounds of the playoffs. This winds it down to the two best. I frankly see this going 7 and ending in NY, with long sad bus ride home to Philadelphia for the Phillies.

[TheTraveler]

Meh, I'd root for a troupe of drunken monkeys if they were playing the Crankees. That's not to say that I don't like Philly ... I do ... but I R E A L L Y hope they win again. :D

[VirtualSmitty]

The Yankees also lead MLB in comeback wins and walk off wins this season. How is that not exciting?

:r:tpd: I guess it all boils down to what you define as exciting.

[Blueface]

Well, seems the Phillies will have to do it against better completely overall stats by the Yankees and against odds makers.

http://sports-odds.com/baseball/102609-phillies-vs-yankees-2009-world-series-odds-predictions.html

Seems they had it pegged back in February as well.
http://www.thespread.com/sports-betting-top-stories-900/2009-mlb-world-series-odds-to-win-yankees-favored-by-oddsmakers-a.html

Odds for the ALCS and NLCS.
Yankees alone have same chance as the three other teams combined!

Las Vegas, Nevada (October 13, 2009) - Using Las Vegas odds, the teams expected to make and win the World Series can be identified. RJ Bell of Pregame.com provides the most accurate possible consensus of a sporting event's true odds.

Odds to win the 2009 World Series:

New York Yankees: 1 to 1 (50% chance)
LA Dodgers: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)
Philadelphia Phillies: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)
Los Angeles Angels: 5 to 1 (16.6% chance)

Now we just have to live up to it.:D

[Starscream]

Stats don't always equate to wins

:tpd:

[Blueface]

:tpd:

I could not find anything to agree with more than that statement.

All can keep highlighting this comment all you want.

The point of the stats was not to show a guaranteed win. I am no fool and have seen many underdogs win in my 50 years on this Earth.

The point of the stats was that a comment was made that the Phillies were a more "exciting" team. I highlighted stats that to me and most anyone, illustrates the Yankees far exceeding the Phillies in all categories.

So, while stats don't guarantee a win, watching a team that hit more times on base, slammed more balls out of the park, had a better slugging percentage and WON 10 more games, more walk off wins and have the best closing reliever to have played the game, it is hard to say the Phillies are more exciting. However, I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and we are often blinded into believing things that are not always as one sees them. Let's just say the Phillies in 3 as that seems to be possible in the eyes of some Phillies fans as the Yankees may not show up for game 4 and quit.

[feznuk]

The stats are fun to look at, but they only tell us what’s already been done and not what’s going to happen. That said, they are concrete and one can’t really argue them.

All those numbers tell me is that this is going to be one heck of a series…..I think we all agree on that!

Both teams have momentum changing power from beginning to end in their lineup. As a Phillie fan I hope the team can keep the pace they had in the NLCS clincher. The boys were scary that night.

Prediction:
- The Phils will take one game in NY.
- We’ll win two at home, but won’t be lucky enough to end it in Philly.
- The Yanks are going to win game 6 at home in convincing fashion
- There will be several lead changes through game 7, but the Phils will win
it with a bomb in the end….maybe even extra innings!!

[Starscream]

However, I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and we are often blinded into believing things that are not always as one sees them.

That's probably why I'm still a Reds fan, Carlos.:r

[Blueface]

The stats are fun to look at, but they only tell us what’s already been done and not what’s going to happen. That said, they are concrete and one can’t really argue them.

All those numbers tell me is that this is going to be one heck of a series…..I think we all agree on that!

Both teams have momentum changing power from beginning to end in their lineup. As a Phillie fan I hope the team can keep the pace they had in the NLCS clincher. The boys were scary that night.

Prediction:
- The Phils will take one game in NY.
- We’ll win two at home, but won’t be lucky enough to end it in Philly.
- The Yanks are going to win game 6 at home in convincing fashion
- There will be several lead changes through game 7, but the Yanks will win
it with a bomb in the end….maybe even extra innings!!

I agreed with you all the way until the part in bold.:r
I corrected it for you.

[Blueface]

That's probably why I'm still a Reds fan, Carlos.:r

:r:r:r

The funny thing is none of know the outcome.
None of us earn the money they earn. Our bills will still be the same and no additional income.
None of our lives will really change in any way, come what may, yet we get nuts over predicting who will win.

[yourchoice]

WHAT???
Come on. Seriously?
The best team in baseball in 2009 based on record was the Yankees.
The only team to win over 100 games.
The batting arsenal they have?
The pitching?
The bullpen?

I see the Phillies as an admirable opponent as I did the Angels. No doubt that while I think I can safely argue why the Yankees are the better team, no way would I ever think the Yankees can pull this off in 5.

There is a fan and then there is a blind fan.
Phillies in 5. That there is some seriously funny chit!!!

Warning: Rambling post...

You seem to be harping on the greatness of the Yankees' regular season achievements. Yippee!

Yes, they had the best record in baseball. Yes, they were the only team to win 100 games this year. If they were in the NHL they could parade the President’s Trophy down Broadway.:wnr

Winning the most regular season games didn't help the 2001 Mariners (116 wins - lost in 5 games in the LCS), or the 2004 Cardinals (105 wins - got swept in the WS), or the 2008 Angels (100 wins (only 100 win team) - lost in 4 games in the LDS).

And I'm not sure why you feel insulted as you insinuated. :confused: I didn't realize this was such a touchy subject. If someone predicted the Yankees in 5 I wouldn't be insulted. I wouldn't be shocked by any outcome in this series. Seriously bro, don't take it so seriously. :tu

And predicting the Phillies in 5 does not make me a "blind fan". The Phillies certainly have their faults, their bullpen and bench topping the list. I was just making a prediction for the series. Before the playoffs started, I said the one team I didn't want to face from the NL in was the Rockies. I thought they may lose the series to them, and I thought they matched up better against everyone else in the league. If not for a very timely hit by Howard, there would have been a game 5 and everything about this post season could have been different. Oh, that's right... I'm a blind fan, I must have predicted a sweep. :rolleyes:

I have trouble keeping up with the banter, so don't take any lack of timely responses as avoidance. It also causes rambling posts like this one.

Let's all smoke a cigar tonight and sing Kumbaya. :ss

[ade06]

It's entertainment. Overpaid adults playing a game. It gives us something to watch and talk about so we don't have to focus on all of the ills of society.

[Blueface]

Warning: Rambling post...

You seem to be harping on the greatness of the Yankees' regular season achievements. Yippee!

Yes, they had the best record in baseball. Yes, they were the only team to win 100 games this year. If they were in the NHL they could parade the President’s Trophy down Broadway.:wnr

Winning the most regular season games didn't help the 2001 Mariners (116 wins - lost in 5 games in the LCS), or the 2004 Cardinals (105 wins - got swept in the WS), or the 2008 Angels (100 wins (only 100 win team) - lost in 4 games in the LDS).

And I'm not sure why you feel insulted as you insinuated. :confused: I didn't realize this was such a touchy subject. If someone predicted the Yankees in 5 I wouldn't be insulted. I wouldn't be shocked by any outcome in this series. Seriously bro, don't take it so seriously. :tu

And predicting the Phillies in 5 does not make me a "blind fan". The Phillies certainly have their faults, their bullpen and bench topping the list. I was just making a prediction for the series. Before the playoffs started, I said the one team I didn't want to face from the NL in was the Rockies. I thought they may lose the series to them, and I thought they matched up better against everyone else in the league. If not for a very timely hit by Howard, there would have been a game 5 and everything about this post season could have been different. Oh, that's right... I'm a blind fan, I must have predicted a sweep. :rolleyes:

I have trouble keeping up with the banter, so don't take any lack of timely responses as avoidance. It also causes rambling posts like this one.

Let's all smoke a cigar tonight and sing Kumbaya. :ss

Not insulted.
Used it as a "term" meaning you don't give the Yankees the time of day if one thinks they can only win one game.
As far as their greatness in 2009, I think I have covered why those stats were listed. Nothing to do with a prediction. All to do with "excitement" comment.
Again, not a fool here. The word upset exists for a reason in sports.
Just can't imagine anyone being serious about such a bold prediction.
It is all in good fun.

[Blueface]

It's entertainment. Overpaid adults playing a game. It gives us something to watch and talk about so we don't have to focus on all of the ills of society.

Funny you mention that. I was just remembering this story.
Hope all enjoy it as much as I enjoy remembering it.

I just remembered my son's third game of the little league championship game.
They had split the first two games and were playing the third and final game.
Bases were loaded for the opposing team.
If they got one more out, my son's team would win the championship.
They had played their hearts out and were the bad news bears looking to win it all.
The coach was on third shouting advice around.
The ball was hit, ground ball to third, about 10' from the bag.
Fundamentals 101 says run over and step on the bag as the runner was late leaving second for third, you would have the forced out, and game over.
Instead, the coach yells at the third baseman to throw to home. He does. He puts the ball on top of the batting cage and it gets stuck.
Two runs come in. My son's team loses the game.

Morals learned:
1 - the coach was an ahole who knew little about baseball.
2 - kids will cry when they lose and they did.
3 - my son was not crying. Asked me to buy him a soda and a hot dog. Told me it was just a game and couldn't understand why cry over something already done.

Boy did I learn from my kid that day. So while a die hard Yankees fan, if they win, we celebrate. If they lose, not much will have changed in my life and they instead have seen a whole lot of money I can only dream of, to play a game.

[feznuk]

I agreed with you all the way until the part in bold.:r
I corrected it for you.

As expected.:tu


Now we just have to keep our eyes on the rain headed our way and hope we can get it all started on Wednesday.

[yourchoice]

Damn Carlos, you type fast.
THat's all I have to say ATM. :r

[yourchoice]

Any of the confident Philly fans care to back it up with a wager? Let's call it a 5er of Habanos?

Talk is cheap, Habanos are yummy!

I'll take you up on that wager. Let me know if it's on. :tu

[The Poet]

Before I read all the crap posted above, I was figuring the Yankees in 6. But after seeing all the "Rollins"-esque crap posted by the Phillie fans, I'm hoping for a repeat of their last meeting in The Fall Classic, back in 1950.

Yankees in a sweep. :ss

[floydpink]

I'll take you up on that wager. Let me know if it's on. :tu

Oh, IT'S ON!!!!

You are on for a 5er. Obviously you are taking the Phiilies.....

[yourchoice]

Not sure what you see as "rollins-esque" but whatever. Seems as if you don't pick the Yankees to win, you're a dope or a fool or a "blind fan". This thread is bringing back memories of conversations I had with friends at Rutgers who were Yankees/Giants/Rangers fans... a humble bunch. :rolleyes:Before I read all the crap posted above, I was figuring the Yankees in 6. But after seeing all the "Rollins"-esque crap posted by the Phillie fans, I'm hoping for a repeat of their last meeting in The Fall Classic, back in 1950.

Yankees in a sweep. :ss
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[floydpink]

Before I read all the crap posted above, I was figuring the Yankees in 6. But after seeing all the "Rollins"-esque crap posted by the Phillie fans, I'm hoping for a repeat of their last meeting in The Fall Classic, back in 1950.

Yankees in a sweep. :ss


I am a diehard Yankees fan and also a realist. Care to wager a 5 er on that prediction?

[floydpink]

Not sure what you see as "rollins-esque" but whatever. Seems as if you don't pick the Yankees to win, you're a dope or a fool or a "blind fan". This thread is bringing back memories of conversations I had with friends at Rutgers who were Yankees/Giants/Rangers fans... a humble bunch. :rolleyes:
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Wow, this reminds me of my friends from Philly constantly trying to determine who makes the best cheesesteaks; Pat's or Geno's. :r

Ooops, I just noticed you're actually from North PA, I mean South Jersey.

In a week, we will all be consoling you and your team and saying, "nice try".

Hey, you DO still have the Liberty Bell to be proud of.....

[The Poet]

Prediction? Phillies in 5.


Joel, I see THAT as "Rollins-esque", brother. And no, I don't think the Yanks will sweep - but I certainly don't think they will win only 1 game either. I expect the series to play out pretty much the same way it did against the Angels, with most of the games being ones either could win. Yet anyone who looks at it objectively must admit the Yankees have the edge in - well, in everything, really.

[ade06]

Wow, this reminds me of my friends from Philly constantly trying to determine who makes the best cheesesteaks; Pat's or Geno's. I call B.S.

I'm not from Philly and even I know Philadelphians don't care for either Pat's or Geno's :r :r :r

[floydpink]

I call B.S.

I'm not from Philly and even I know Philadelphians don't care for either Pat's or Geno's :r :r :r

Ok then, not to veer to far off topic, where IS the best cheesesteak in Philly then?

Actually like pizza, everyone knows the best cheesesteaks are actually in New Jersey.

[ade06]

Ok then, not to veer to far off topic, where IS the best cheesesteak in Philly then?

I think that one can find a general consensus that Tony Luke's makes a proper cheesesteak. :dr But all opinions are subjective. ;)

[The Poet]

Actually like pizza, everyone knows the best cheesesteaks are actually in New Jersey.

:banger

[Blueface]

Not sure what you see as "rollins-esque" but whatever. Seems as if you don't pick the Yankees to win, you're a dope or a fool or a "blind fan".

Wow!:r
How things evolve.
No one said anything about having to pick the Yankees.
Remember? Someone mentioned Phillies in 5? Did I read that wrong?
Hence a blind Phillies fan if you can't recognize they are not playing against a triple A team. They are playing the best team in baseball in 2009! Just hope they don't turn out like the Patriots.

[ScottieM]

Yankees play in THE toughest division in Baseball and yet they managed to win 103 games. The Phillies have some solid bats for sure but I like my Yankees Chances. Yanks in 5. Go Yankees!

[Blueface]

Damn Carlos, you type fast.
THat's all I have to say ATM. :r

:r

72 WPM last time I was tested.
I swear I have gotten way better than that now.

[Blueface]

If a Phillies fan, I would say nothing better than to be the underdog against the heavy favorite.
If you win, you got an upset.
If you lose, the odds were against you.

In the Yankees case, if they lose, there will be lots of unemployed folks suddenly.

So, Phillies, help save some jobs.:r

[The Poet]

If a Phillies fan, I would say nothing better than to be the underdog against the heavy favorite.
If you win, you got an upset.
If you lose, the odds were against you.

In the Yankees case, if they lose, there will be lots of unemployed folks suddenly.

So, Phillies, help save some jobs.:r

Not to mention that, if the Phils win, all the talk will be about how good a team they have built. If the Yanks win, all the talk will be about how they "bought" a championship, not how well they played.

So Phillies just might as well lay down and let the Yankees win. Nobody will be shocked, and nobody will give them credit.

[floydpink]

I wonder what the trash talking stats on this matchup will be...

Philadelphia and New York both are strong contenders and it might be best if the folks from the midwest just skipover this thread altogether.:r

[Blueface]

I wonder what the trash talking stats on this matchup will be...

Philadelphia and New York both are strong contenders and it might be best if the folks from the midwest just skipover this thread altogether.:r

:r

[Blueface]

Not sure what you see as "rollins-esque" but whatever. Seems as if you don't pick the Yankees to win, you're a dope or a fool or a "blind fan". This thread is bringing back memories of conversations I had with friends at Rutgers who were Yankees/Giants/Rangers fans... a humble bunch. :rolleyes:
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Joel,
Just realized it and totally feel for you.
I have a new found understanding and sort of feel bad.
You are from "South Jersey".
The land of nowhere. You are not accepted by northern jersey, where the majority of the population resides. On top of that, no local team anywhere in sight to call your own so understandably you look for comfort across the river, in Philadelphia, the land of brotherly love.
Makes sense.
:r:r:r

Kidding aside, unless you are from NJ, folks have no clue of the two different worlds that exist between northern Jersey and south Jersey. At least when I left 13 years ago, it was evident.

.....and as cheesesteaks go, GENO'S!!!

[floydpink]

Only use people from North Jersey have for South Jersey is all the places for the maffia to bury bodies in all the pine barrens.:D

[The Poet]

Some guy who joined here a short time back said he was from Mid-Jersey, and I objected that there was no such thing. I think he went and hid, which was not my intent. :r

[Blueface]

Some guy who joined here a short time back said he was from Mid-Jersey, and I objected that there was no such thing. I think he went and hid, which was not my intent. :r

:r
That there is funny stuff.
Amazing how it has always been Northern Jersey or South Jersey.
I think the reason there is no middle is the middle part wants no part of that and prefers the term "Northern Jersey.:r

[yourchoice]

Joel, I see THAT as "Rollins-esque", brother. And no, I don't think the Yanks will sweep - but I certainly don't think they will win only 1 game either. I expect the series to play out pretty much the same way it did against the Angels, with most of the games being ones either could win. Yet anyone who looks at it objectively must admit the Yankees have the edge in - well, in everything, really.
I don't see that as "Rollins-esque". I see that as a prediction. Wasn't even said in a "smartass" way. If I said "Phillies sweep, but maybe the Yanks will sneak out one win" that would be me being a d***. And please entertain me what did Rollins say that has stuck in your craw so bad?

And the bolded part.....???? To use another "esque", that is New York-esque. You're kidding, right?
I call B.S.

I'm not from Philly and even I know Philadelphians don't care for either Pat's or Geno's
IMHO, Tony Luke's is better than both. YMMV.
Wow!
How things evolve.
No one said anything about having to pick the Yankees.
Remember? Someone mentioned Phillies in 5? Did I read that wrong?
Hence a blind Phillies fan if you can't recognize they are not playing against a triple A team. They are playing the best team in baseball in 2009! Just hope they don't turn out like the Patriots.
No one said anything about the Yankees being a AAA team. You inferred that I was dissing the Yankees because I predicted the Phillies in 5. I saw no d***ness (like, that's a word :r) when I predicted it. You all are just offended that someone would make such a bold prediction against your beloved Yankees. A backhanded apology can be made if that would make all of you feel better. ;)
The Yankees had the best regular season record. The World Series will determine the the best team in baseball. Your opinion of what defines the best team apparently differs from mine.
Joel,
Just realized it and totally feel for you.
I have a new found understanding and sort of feel bad.
You are from "South Jersey".
The land of nowhere. You are not accepted by northern jersey, where the majority of the population resides. On top of that, no local team anywhere in sight to call your own so understandably you look for comfort across the river, in Philadelphia, the land of brotherly love.
Makes sense.


Kidding aside, unless you are from NJ, folks have no clue of the two different worlds that exist between northern Jersey and south Jersey. At least when I left 13 years ago, it was evident.

.....and as cheesesteaks go, GENO'S!!!

All kidding aside, I am closer to the stadium complex in S. Philly than a lot of people who live in Philly! 18 minutes from my driveway to the entrance to the stadium parking lot...and I live in the boonies! :r Being that close I have no problem calling Philly my home city. (***kidding no longer aside***) And who in the world would want to be associated with the armpit of America, North Jersey where corruption and lawlessness reigns supreme? ;)

I went to Rutgers (NB) and when I told people there I was in North Jersey they about flipped and said it was actually South Jersey. We agreed to disagree but ultimately I ended up calling it Central Jersey. ...I won't hide though. :)

[yourchoice]

Thank God the Eagles play tonight and I can walk away from this banter! :r

[Blueface]

I went to Rutgers (NB) and when I told people there I was in North Jersey they about flipped and said it was actually South Jersey. We agreed to disagree but ultimately I ended up calling it Central Jersey. ...I won't hide though. :)

Ha!!!
Rutgers Alumni here also.
However, I am from Rutgers in Norther Jersey from NCAS.:r
We differer there to, even going to the same school, even both being from Jersey.
How funny.

[Blueface]

Thank God the Eagles play tonight and I can walk away from this banter! :r

You need two football teams to show up to have a game.
Who is this Washington team? Are they in the NFL?:r

[MedicCook]

Go Yankees.

[yourchoice]

Go Yankees.

Damn, you're right...I should have just said Go Phillies. :r

[MedicCook]

Damn, you're right...I should have just said Go Phillies. :r

Keep it simple Joel. :D

[Blueface]

Damn, you're right...I should have just said Go Phillies. :r

Now just exactly how did you mean that "Go'?:r

[VirtualSmitty]

And who in the world would want to be associated with the armpit of America, North Jersey where corruption and lawlessness reigns supreme? ;)

:r Oh no you didn't. Don't even get me started on the ass end of this state.

Go Yankees.

[floydpink]

Better be nice to the lawlessness in North Jersey.

Lost of wiseguys pass through South Jersey to bury bodies out in the pine barrens.

You probably wouldn't believe me, but I actually worked for a well known mobster in college at his fish market in Rutherford and learned to keep my head down and mouth shut and let the money flow into my pockets.

I actually grew up in Long Branch, on the shore, and we always considered it Central Jersey and called everyone from other parts of the state, "bennies".

[ScottieM]

Not to mention that, if the Phils win, all the talk will be about how good a team they have built. If the Yanks win, all the talk will be about how they "bought" a championship, not how well they played.

So Phillies just might as well lay down and let the Yankees win. Nobody will be shocked, and nobody will give them credit.

The Phillies have the 7th Highest Payroll in Baseball. Don't kid your self. Its not like the Phillies have totally built this team from the ground up.

[Blueface]

I actually grew up in Long Branch, on the shore, and we always considered it Central Jersey and called everyone from other parts of the state, "bennies".

Pete,
No such thing as Central Jersey.
If you grew up in Long Branch, where I come from (Ironbound section of Newark - grammar school, High School and even went to college near by at Rutgers in Newark), you grew up "down the shore".

[MedicCook]

I always liked the joke Carlin used back in the 80's.

"Kiss her where it smells, take her to New Jersey." :r

[feznuk]

And heeeeeeeeeeere we go....:mad:

[floydpink]

And heeeeeeeeeeere we go....:mad:

TOTALLY uncalled for~!!!

I am still trying to get over this blasphemy I recently saw....

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/Erica_Mari_Yankees_Suck.jpg

But it's still not as bad as this.....

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/Mets_choke.jpg

[floydpink]

Pete,
No such thing as Central Jersey.
If you grew up in Long Branch, where I come from (Ironbound section of Newark - grammar school, High School and even went to college near by at Rutgers in Newark), you grew up "down the shore".

Carlos,

What a stroll down memory lane.
My Dad grew up in Newark and went to Weequahic High School and Rutgers law School in Newark.

Him and my grandfather had a law firm on Academy Street for more than 50 years.

As a kid, my Mom would put me on the train from the shore and my Dad picked me up in Newark for dinner at Don Pepe's before heading over to Yankee Stadium to sit in our seats along the 3rd base line where my jaw dropped as Greg Nettles leaped through the air to catch line drives and Bucky Dent ripped out Red Sox fan's hearts with shots over the left field wall.

I broke my arm jumping my dirtbike and the cast was signed by Thurman Munson at batting practice when I was 9.

Yankees in 6, Pete sobbing like a little girl as the Yankees collect #27, with no other ball club even in their rear view mirror for all of time.

It's gotta suck not liking the Yankees, but if you grow up in my family, you'll never know the feeling.

My 4 year old daughter needs to be reminded its, "Jeter", not "Cheater", but already knows the good guys wear black hats and pinstripes.

[Blueface]

Carlos,

What a stroll down memory lane.
My Dad grew up in Newark and went to Weequahic High School and Rutgers law School in Newark.

Him and my grandfather had a law firm on Academy Street for more than 50 years.

As a kid, my Mom would put me on the train from the shore and my Dad picked me up in Newark for dinner at Don Pepe's before heading over to Yankee Stadium to sit in our seats along the 3rd base line where my jaw dropped as Greg Nettles leaped through the air to catch line drives and Bucky Dent ripped out Red Sox fan's hearts with shots over the left field wall.

I broke my arm jumping my dirtbike and the cast was signed by Thurman Munson at batting practice when I was 9.

Yankees in 6, Pete sobbing like a little girl as the Yankees collect #27, with no other ball club even in their rear view mirror for all of time.

It's gotta suck not liking the Yankees, but if you grow up in my family, you'll never know the feeling.

My 4 year old daughter needs to be reminded its, "Jeter", not "Cheater", but already knows the good guys wear black hats and pinstripes.

I went to Mt. Carmel elementary school right next to Independence Park in the Ironbound.
Graduated from East Side High right down the street.
Went to NJIT for a year in downtown Newark, then went across the street to Rutgers where I graduated from.
Spent most of my life in or around Newark.

Got to see Munson and bs with him overlooking the bullpen in Shea, when the Yankees played there. Signed a paper for me but as a kid will do, lost it.

I have my 2 year old grandson who yells "Go Yankees" whenever he sees a baseball team playing. Picked up a Jeter jersey for him when I went to Yankee stadium this past May.

Man it is fun to be a Yankees fan.

I will try to post later my favorite piece of Yankees history. My son and I met Mickey Mantle just a few months before he died. Got a ball signed and was nice enough to put "No. 7" beneath his name.
I will always cherish that ball. Don't care what it can be worth. Will never part willingly in my lifetime.

[yourchoice]

And heeeeeeeeeeere we go....:mad:

Unlike the NY Post, Philly Daily News went classy. Of course Philly will still get bashed by the talking-heads, but we all know the real deal. :tu

[MedicCook]

7 1/2 hours away!!

Lets go Yankees!!

[MedicCook]

Yankees have added relief pitcher Brian Bruney & pinch-hitter Eric Hinski to the World Series roster. They dropped pinch-runner Freddy Guzman and catcher Francisco Cervelli.

[Blueface]

Unlike the NY Post, Philly Daily News went classy. Of course Philly will still get bashed by the talking-heads, but we all know the real deal. :tu

Come on. We are talking about the NY Post here. No one even considers them a newspaper. Would not worry about what they say and that would just follows the norm.

[floydpink]

Unlike the NY Post, Philly Daily News went classy. Of course Philly will still get bashed by the talking-heads, but we all know the real deal. :tu

One thing about Philly and the news, AND the fans, is they are definitely classy.

Take this broadcast for example.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krd4r_Yw__4

Real deal for sure!!!!

[MedicCook]

I thought San Diego was classy.

[The Poet]

FYI, from the weather station here in Madison: Clouds have bugun to break up, and patches of blue sky have been reported - by me. :D

[MedicCook]

I just saw a radar loop and there is no more green over the Bronx.

[feznuk]

I just saw a radar loop and there is no more green over the Bronx.

I concur…no more green, but there looks to be a mean storm of red moving in.:D

T-3.5 hours….LET’S GO PHILLIES!!:dance:

[The Poet]

I concur…no more green, but there looks to be a mean storm of red moving in.:D

No worries - that one will blow over too. :r

[MedicCook]

I concur…no more green, but there looks to be a mean storm of red moving in.:D

T-3.5 hours….LET’S GO PHILLIES!!:dance:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DJK8YXnqpLY/SQhnhg8ee7I/AAAAAAAAAWg/ft9pFoSuI4I/s320/Who%27s+your+daddy.jpg

[BigAsh]

Yankees have added relief pitcher Brian Bruney & pinch-hitter Eric Hinski to the World Series roster. They dropped pinch-runner Freddy Guzman and catcher Francisco Cervelli.

....that should put 'em over the edge...:r....here's last year's ring...another for the other hand this year...
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll369/kdos66/photo-6-1-1.jpg

[The Poet]

Good Gawd, what a freakin' ugly cheap-looking piece of crap. They couldn't do something more classy? Hell, Louis Comfort Tiffany designed our NY logo even, fer Kris'sakes! :r

[yourchoice]

One thing about Philly and the news, AND the fans, is they are definitely classy.

Take this broadcast for example.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krd4r_Yw__4

Real deal for sure!!!!

Oh, we could go back and forth with classless fans, no doubt. Every city has them. I was referring to the tabloid like newspaper cover. FYI, the Philly Daily News can get pretty bad with their covers too, but the Post one was...well kind of just stupid. :r

Seriously.... I'm hoping for a clean, well played, well umpired and healthy series for both teams. That would be fun to watch.

:ss :ss

Go Phils!

[MedicCook]

Well Umpired will be amazing.

[yourchoice]

Good Gawd, what a freakin' ugly cheap-looking piece of crap. They couldn't do something more classy? Hell, Louis Comfort Tiffany designed our NY logo even, fer Kris'sakes!

:r :r :r

Yeah, huge friggin' difference! You're just plain silly sometimes. :r
http://www.tjscollectiblesinc.com/i//1999_NY_Yankees_Ring-10.JPG

[The Poet]

You're just plain silly sometimes. :r

Sometimes? Shoot, I aim for always.

[BigAsh]

Good Gawd, what a freakin' ugly cheap-looking piece of crap. They couldn't do something more classy? Hell, Louis Comfort Tiffany designed our NY logo even, fer Kris'sakes! :r

Bad I-phone pic...Looks incredible in person....especially when it was on my finger:D...weighs a ton



Seriously.... I'm hoping for a clean, well played, well umpired [/B]and healthy series for both teams. That would be fun to watch.



Agreed...looking forward to this one...



Yeah, huge friggin' difference! You're just plain silly sometimes.
http://www.tjscollectiblesinc.com/i//1999_NY_Yankees_Ring-10.JPG
:r:r

[The Poet]

http://www.tjscollectiblesinc.com/i//1999_NY_Yankees_Ring-10.JPG

What, you don't like this example? Well, maybe you should search for a few dozen other ones, to see if you can find one you like better. :r

[BigAsh]

What, you don't like this example? Well, maybe you should search for a few dozen other ones, to see if you can find one you like better. :r

Now that's funny....hate to admit it but made me laugh....

[BigAsh]

Hey, Thomas....friendly little NC 5-er wager?.....:ss

[Blueface]

....that should put 'em over the edge...:r....here's last year's ring...another for the other hand this year...
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll369/kdos66/photo-6-1-1.jpg



26 for the Yankees........shooting for 27.

Hmmm.....
Wonder who has more to choose from.

Phillies?
1980 and 2008.
Not much to choose there.

[BigAsh]

....No argument there....but what have you done for me lately?

[Blueface]

....No argument there....but what have you done for me lately?

Sit tight.
You are about to get your answer soon enough.:r

[BigAsh]

:r:r






.....not
:D

[The Poet]

Hey, Thomas....friendly little NC 5-er wager?.....:ss

Thank you for the offer, but aside from my "no gambling" rule, which I rarely violate, I never like to bet on either my Yankees or my Tar Heels: If I win, I've already won and am happy with that; if I lose, I've lost twice.

Besides, despite the fact that I want another WS win, I'm really just happy to be there. Too many of you seem to have forgotten that, when the season started, many baseball pundits predicted the Red Sox and the Rays to battle for the AL East, with the Yankees out in the cold. There were too many questions in their minds, from an ageing Jeter and Andy, and Posada, Mo, Matsui, both ageing and coming off injuries, A-Rod hobbled physically and personally, Cano's sophomore slump, the whole Joba issue,Melky's ability to produce and who would play CF if he didn't, where would their bullpen come from, plus how the new people like C.C., A.J., Swisher, and Tex would adjust to the big stage in NYC - not to mention Wang, who was no factor in the long run.

I want 4 more wins this year, but 110 so far ain't bad.

[Blueface]

Thank you for the offer, but aside from my "no gambling" rule, which I rarely violate, I never like to bet on either my Yankees or my Tar Heels: If I win, I've already won and am happy with that; if I lose, I've lost twice.

Besides, despite the fact that I want another WS win, I'm really just happy to be there. Too many of you seem to have forgotten that, when the season started, many baseball pundits predicted the Red Sox and the Rays to battle for the AL East, with the Yankees out in the cold. There were too many questions in their minds, from an ageing Jeter and Andy, and Posada, Mo, Matsui, both ageing and coming off injuries, A-Rod hobbled physically and personally, Cano's sophomore slump, the whole Joba issue,Melky's ability to produce and who would play CF if he didn't, where would their bullpen come from, plus how the new people like C.C., A.J., Swisher, and Tex would adjust to the big stage in NYC - not to mention Wang, who was no factor in the long run.

I want 4 more wins this year, but 110 so far ain't bad.

Screw them!!!
I want it all!!!:r

Don't want to see a Patriots type repeat here.
Think of all the mouths to feed that will be jobless if the Yankees lose.:r

[Riff Raff]

Wow, such....uhm.....passion! :)

I have to admit, I would like to see the Phillies win. We need more than just one team with a legacy!

[Blueface]

Found this link.
Talk about bragging rights!!!

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/postseason/mlb_ws.jsp?feature=club_champs

The way I see, awful lots of pressure on the Phillies to exceed the Marlins, who came to baseball in the mid 90's and have as many rings.:r

[Blueface]

Well, with all the crap I have spilled in this thread, if the Yankees don't back me up, I figure I need a back up plan.

Plan B is set to go, just in case.
If not needed, I can easily cover it back up again and the grass will soon grow back.

:r:r:r

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/holeintheground.jpg

[Blueface]

Shaky first.
Phillies' clutch hitter did what he gets paid for.
Sebathia used up 1/4 of average pitcher's total pitches.
Interesting start to say the least.
Now our turn at the 1st inning.

[bvilchez]

What a scary top of the 1st.

[bvilchez]

I think this game might be rain delayed later on if it picks up....let's hope it doesn't

[Blueface]

Phillies draw first blood.
Sabathia is not on his game at all.

[Blueface]

Cliff Lee is on fire.

[MedicCook]

Time for the Yankees to get into the game.

[bvilchez]

We need to get the bats swinging AND hitting!!!

[MedicCook]

Jeter got his 2nd hit.

[feznuk]

A couple insurance runs never hurts.

[floydpink]

Wow, Philly sure came out swinging.

great pitching as well.

Still plenty of series left thank goodness.

[MedicCook]

Yankees will needs some of that 9th inning magik.

[MedicCook]

6-0 Philly going into the bottom of the 9th.

Great relay by the Yankees to end the top of the 9th.

[MedicCook]

Jeter & Damon lead off the bottom of the 9th with back to back singles.

[MedicCook]

6-1 Yankees after a FC by Teixeira and an error on the play by Rollins.

[elderboy02]

Come on Phillies! Hang onto this one!

[elderboy02]

Nice win :banger

[ade06]

1 down 3 to go!

[MedicCook]

Good game for the Phillies. Cliff Lee & Chase Utley were great tonight.

[ade06]

Jeter was hot tonight... I hope he's done hitting for the Series.

[MedicCook]

A-Rod & Teixeira were bad tonight.

[Whee]

Holy Crap!

[feznuk]

That was just a pitching clinic tonight!

Not much offense at all until late. CC didn't pitch all that bad except the first inning. He just made the same mistake to Chase twice and paid for it both times.

[MedicCook]

They will need to bounce back tomorrow.

[TheTraveler]

Nice. Nice. Nice.

:tu :tu

Good win Phillies! 1 down let's get 3 more!

[yourchoice]

Good start. :tu

Hopefully the Phillies can keep working the count like they did tonight and get into (what I think is) the Yankees' suspect middle relief.

[MedicCook]

Nice. Nice. Nice.

:tu :tu

Good win Phillies! 1 down let's get 3 more and S W E E P !!!

(sorry, couldn't help myself :D )

I don't care what you say as long as you have that avatar.

[yourchoice]

I'll bite even further.
Here are the 2009 stats for both on things that shed "excitement".

Runs Phillies 820 Yankees 915
Hits Phillies 1439 Yankees 1604
HRs Phillies 224 Yankees 244
RBI Phillies 788 Yankees 881
Avg. Phillies .258 Yankees .283
Slugging Phillies .447 Yankees .478

Add 103 wins to 93 and I can clearly see why you think the Phillies are a more exciting team.:r As I said earlier, blind.


Hey Carlos, something came to me tonight while watching the game. If the Phillies were able to plug a DH into the lineup every game, their stats would be awfully similar.









Or maybe I'm not thinking straight and am not seeing it right....you know, blind. ;)

[VirtualSmitty]

Hey Carlos, something came to me tonight while watching the game. If the Phillies were able to plug a DH into the lineup every game, their stats would be awfully similar.









Or maybe I'm not thinking straight and am not seeing it right....you know, blind. ;)

Not really. If they had the DH every game that would mean they'd be playing in the AL east, and with the record they had wouldn't have made the playoffs ;)

Lee pitched great. CC pitched ok. It's only one game, still a lot of baseball to be had.

[yourchoice]

Not really. If they had the DH every game that would mean they'd be playing in the AL east, and with the record they had wouldn't have made the playoffs ;)



Uh.....yeah.....okay. :confused:

I was looking at the stats Carlos listed. Not sure how that equates to "not really". And to think the Phillies wouldn't have made the playoffs is an assumption. I, on the other hand, assume they would have. Maybe if they win back to back World Series you'll give them some credit.

[VirtualSmitty]

Uh.....yeah.....okay. :confused:

I was looking at the stats Carlos listed. Not sure how that equates to "not really". And to think the Phillies wouldn't have made the playoffs is an assumption. I, on the other hand, assume they would have. Maybe if they win back to back World Series you'll give them some credit.

I was looking at stats too. They had a worse record than the Red Sox and Angels, if they played everyday with a DH they would not have made the playoffs with the record they had. I don't think having Ben Francisco or Matt Stairs in the field everyday would have very much impact.

I do give them credit, they have a great team. If you look over my posts there is no Philly hate. This is the match up I wanted, I even made a post two months back stating so. I reserve my burning hatred for the Red Sox ;)

[yourchoice]

I was looking at stats too. They had a worse record than the Red Sox and Angels, if they played everyday with a DH they would not have made the playoffs with the record they had. I don't think having Ben Francisco or Matt Stairs in the field everyday would have very much impact.

I do give them credit, they have a great team. If you look over my posts there is no Philly hate. This is the match up I wanted, I even made a post two months back stating so. I reserve my burning hatred for the Red Sox ;)

Having Ben Francisco or Matt Stairs in the lineup everyday certainly would have been a vast improvement over having a pitcher bat 3+ times a game. With either one of them playing everyday (or at least platooning) I think they would have had more HRs, probably RBIs, and possibly hits, runs and SLG% too. Innings would have been extended that ended because of a pitcher's ineffectiveness during an at bat.

And no one knows what their record would have been had they had a DH...each game would have played out differently.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.:tu

FWIW, this is the matchup I wanted as well.:)

[VirtualSmitty]

FWIW, this is the matchup I wanted as well.:)

I've been waiting for this matchup a long time. I dated a girl in Maple Shade for four years and her whole family were hardcore Phillies fans. Had to learn to keep my mouth shut around her folks :r

[Noodles]

A-Rod & Teixeira were bad tonight.

Not by accident. ;)

[kelmac07]

Being a huge Mets fan & proverbial Yankee hater...I had to take my hat off to them last night for their pre-game & ceremonial first pitch selection. Nice tribute to veterans!!! :tu

Lee was ON FIRE...again!! :tu

[Blueface]

While as a Yankees fan I am upset over the loss, I tip my hat to Cliff Lee for putting on a pitching clinic last night.
The man was amazing.
As is always known, good pitching shuts down good hitting.
That was a big win for the Phillies.

[BigAsh]

Well, with all the crap I have spilled in this thread, if the Yankees don't back me up, I figure I need a back up plan.

Plan B is set to go, just in case.
If not needed, I can easily cover it back up again and the grass will soon grow back.

:r:r:r

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/holeintheground.jpg

You're gonna need a bigger hole.....

6-0 Philly going into the bottom of the 9th.

Great relay by the Yankees to end the top of the 9th.

Gotta love an optimist!


While as a Yankees fan I am upset over the loss, I tip my hat to Cliff Lee for putting on a pitching clinic last night.
The man was amazing.
As is always known, good pitching shuts down good hitting.
That was a big win for the Phillies.

Damn, came in this morning ready to fire away and there you go, being all "gracious" in defeat....:D.....Still alot of baseball left but I love the fact we got by CC!

[floydpink]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but tonight is a must win for the Yankees.

Going into Philly down 0-2 will be too big of a hole to climb out of.

[feznuk]

Going into Philly down 0-2 will be too big of a hole to climb out of.

You mean kind of like this hole?:D

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/holeintheground.jpg[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that. I couldn't help myself. That just seemed too easy to pass up.:tu

Honestly, last night was exactly what we (Phillies fans) hoped for and expected with Lee on the mound. He's been incredible this post season. It's a different ball game when he's pitching.

I have a feeling tonight is going to be a lot different. The bats are going to wake up on both sides and I think we see quite a few more runs scored.

I think we'll get 4 or 5 good innings out of Pedro, but then the pen is going to have to go to work.

[Blueface]

With the loss of game 1, tonight is a must win indeed.
Down 0-2, even the almighty Yankees may see that win in 5 some predicted and some of just blew off.
I still have faith they will make this a series but that series goes via a win tonight.
Will certainly have me on pins and needles.
I am hoping I don't get to feel like a Patriots fan ala my Giants.:r

[Blueface]

My neighbors got together and decided to lend a helping hand digging the type of hole it would be in the Yankees don't bring their A game tonight and out do the Phillies.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/largehole.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Being an AL fan , I would like for the Yankees to win. But, they better win tonight, or its over:2

[shilala]

It was a shame to see Cliff's shutout blown by a bad throw.
Cool thing is, he could care less. :)
If there was one thing that impressed me last night, it was the Phillies composure. They're calm, and absolutely certain they're going to hand the Yankees their ass.
I can't wait for the game tonight. I hope the Yankees show up and give Philly a game.
What a series already. I couldn't be more pleased. :tu

[The Poet]

"Must" win tonight? Am I the only one who remembers 1996 against the Braves? Down 0-2, the Yankees won 4 straight to capture their 23rd WS.

Hey, I want a win in The Bronx tonight too, but the only MUST win is the last game.

[Starscream]

You mean kind of like this hole?:D

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/holeintheground.jpg
[/QUOTE]

If you look closely, you can see Baby Jessica in the lower left hand corner of that hole.:D



Great game last night!

[BigAsh]

.....or 2004 vs. the Sox....
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:ss

[The Poet]

Yeah, or that - you big ashhole.

[BigAsh]

:r:r....just wanted to make sure your short term memory was ok.....

[The Poet]

:r:r....just wanted to make sure your short term memory was ok.....

;s And you are . . . ?

[yourchoice]

;s And you are . . . ?

Keith.....not me, him. :)



Wait, what were we talking about? :confused: ;)

[The Poet]

Hunh?

[ade06]

Hunh?

Go Phillies! :r

[BigAsh]

nice Ade.....now we're back on track......

[ade06]

nice Ade.....now we're back on track......

Thanks, I try...:D

[Blueface]

.....or 2004 vs. the Sox....
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:ss

I remember this well.
I also remember the Diamondbacks well.

I also think this is a double edge sword.
It reminds us all what happens in the first few games doesn't really mean much.
As has been said, what really counts is the final game.

[The Poet]

Pedro against A.J. tonight? No matter what, I see this being in the hands of the bullpens before the 6th is done.

[BigAsh]

....which after last nite should be scary....for the Yanks...

[The Poet]

....which after last nite should be scary....for the Yanks...

The pen's been strong this year - don't judge by last night. And at the end there's Mo, whereas Lidge has been a blown save looking for a place to happen all season.

[shilala]

The pen's been strong this year - don't judge by last night. And at the end there's Mo, whereas Lidge has been a blown save looking for a place to happen all season.
You mean the Yank's pen? A season era close to 4 ain't gonna cut it against the Phillies. I know that's not bad nowadays, but it's teh suck when you're putting it up against the World Champions.
If the Yanks starters don't go deep, they are in huge trouble. The Phillies will absolutely shell their bullpen just like they did last night.
There used to be a day when a bullpen's era was supposed to be around 2. It gave a team a chance to do well.
I promise you, a 3.79 era bullpen ain't gonna get it in the Series. (and that works for both sides.)
I sure hope the Yanks have what it takes to make this exciting tonight.
One game does not a Series make, but I'm not making any bets on the Yanks after they didn't show up last night.
What's scarier is that they threw the kitchen sink at the Phils and came up empty.
At this point, I'd honestly be surprised if it didn't end up the Phillies in 4.
I sincerely hope it goes seven games because I hate for baseball to end. :)

[VirtualSmitty]

Theeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees win! Pedro was good, Burnett was better. Mo was Mo, and Ryan Howard got himself a golden sombrero tonight :D:banger

[bvilchez]

AJ pitched a decent game today. I think he could've done just a bit better but I'm not gonna knock the man. He did his thing.

That call on first though was a close call so I really wouldn't consider it bad officiating. From where the ump was standing he couldn't see the hop.















I WISH HE WOULD'VE THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[feznuk]

Pretty much game 1 all over again...pitcher's duel with the Yanks getting the upper hand tonight.

Nice win.

Where are all the big boys at? Way too many strike outs amongst them.:td

[feznuk]

I WISH HE WOULD'VE THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He made up for it the very next inning by missing the call on Utley at first, so I consider it even.:tu

Same deal there....too close to call in real time.

[MedicCook]

Good win for the Yankees tonight. AJ pitched good, a couple nice HRs and the bullpen of Mo to close it out. Looks like Joe has completely lost any trust from the bullpen in a close game.

[yourchoice]

Good win for the Yankees tonight. AJ pitched good, a couple nice HRs and the bullpen of Mo to close it out. Looks like Joe has completely lost any trust from the bullpen in a close game.

I think that's going to end up being the key in the series...for either the Phils or the Yanks. When through, I think it was 3 1/3, and Burnett was close to 60 pitches I liked the Phillies chances, but he did a nice job of settling down and working some quicker innings.

[MedicCook]

I think that's going to end up being the key in the series...for either the Phils or the Yanks. When through, I think it was 3 1/3, and Burnett was close to 60 pitches I liked the Phillies chances, but he did a nice job of settling down and working some quicker innings.

AL also did not have his usual blow up inning in the 5th or 6th. That was the key to the game.

[yourchoice]

AL also did not have his usual blow up inning in the 5th or 6th. That was the key to the game.

No doubt. The Phillies usually thrive on those blow up innings. Their lines are usually something like 0 0 0 1 0 5 0 1 0....if the Yankees minimize those types of innings, there could be some trouble. Hopefully that won't be the case. :D

[MedicCook]

Game 3 is a big game for the Yankees to win. If they win game 3 they have home field advantage back.

[kelmac07]

Burnett looked good tonight!!! Who would thought this series would be a pitchers duel...first game Lee and last night Burnett. I must say that Pedro pitched a fine game, just made a few mistakes. Guess the Yankees are STILL his daddy. LOL!!!

[yachties23]

Theeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees win! Pedro was good, Burnett was better. Mo was Mo, and Ryan Howard got himself a golden sombrero tonight :D:banger

Cmon Joe.... you had to be sweating it out just a little after they took the lead in the second. I'm shocked Burnett had it in him to pitch a good game, more so after giving up that first run.

Nice win, this is shaping up to be a solid series.

[Blueface]

What a great game to watch.

We are tied. Yankees did what great teams do. They win when they have to.
Hoping for that theme to continue.

[Blueface]

At this point, I'd honestly be surprised if it didn't end up the Phillies in 4.


I guess we can put this fear to rest.:D

Now to move forward to conquer the "Phillies in 5" one next.

Decided to check out the Post for kicks.

[floydpink]

I guess the strategy concerning A-Rod is not to worry about him, he's gotten pretty good at striking out after building up a lot of post season hype.

He needs to wake the hell up and in a hurry,

Teixeira finally earned his paycheck though.

Jeter was, well, Jeter as usual.

I never really had much of a chance to watch the Phillies before this Series and definitely didn't give them the credit they deserve. They are a solid ball club.

The umps blew some key calls as usual and I'd have to say Philly got the raw end of it on the double play call, although I woulda, coulda, shoulda sent the runnners.

Watched this one on my neighbor's back porch smoking a couple of nice cigars on a really nice night and enjoyed it immensely.

[ade06]

Yeah, I wish the Phillies would have sent the runners too! But that's baseball for ya. It was still a good game to watch!

[yourchoice]

Now to move forward to conquer the "Phillies in 5" one next.

I officially know how to get under Carlos' skin. :r And nary a reply from you regarding the stats/DH issue...did you see it?

I think Pete hit the nail on the head. Due to the lack of interest of AL affiliated fans watching NL games, and NL affiliated fans watching AL games, credit to the opposition in this series has been pretty low from both sides. I think I can say with some certainty that the best two teams in baseball this year are in the World Series. It's really shaping up to be a great series.

Go Phillies!!

[BigAsh]

What a great game to watch.

We are tied. Yankees did what great teams do. They win when they have to.
Hoping for that theme to continue.

.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

[ade06]

.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

We shall see, but I think he's still on paternity leave :r

[Blueface]

I officially know how to get under Carlos' skin. :r And nary a reply from you regarding the stats/DH issue...did you see it?

I think Pete hit the nail on the head. Due to the lack of interest of AL affiliated fans watching NL games, and NL affiliated fans watching AL games, credit to the opposition in this series has been pretty low from both sides. I think I can say with some certainty that the best two teams in baseball this year are in the World Series. It's really shaping up to be a great series.

Go Phillies!!

:r
No doubt thus far, a great series.
I would be shocked if it doesn't go 7 games as I have felt from the onset


.....like the Phils in game 1:D....Gotta hand it to Burnett....was hoping for a good series, and looks like we're gonna get it.....now if only the "real" Cole Hamels shows up Sat. nite....

Phillies needed one of the two games and they got it.
Yankees needed last night as a must win and they got it.
While I will gladly admit Lee was on fire the first game, I was blown away by the movement on Burnett's pitches last night. There were some that looked like they were headed for the batter and would move right into the strike zone at the last second. The dip on his breaking ball was amazing.
Both winning pitchers did an amazing job of shutting down great hitting.

I was laughing my butt off with the wife.
She despises Pedro and you should have heard the slurs being yelled in my family room by her.:r

[shilala]

I kinda got robbed out of watching the game last night.
It was on all night, but too much stuff was going on to pay close attention.
I did get to see aRod get beat up again. The Phils have definately made some sense out of moving the ball around on him. He's swinging, but they're staying one guess ahead of him. That's going to be a fun story to watch as it plays out.
I was surprised by the Phil's tentative baserunning late. That's always a tough call from the bench. Let it hang out and get skewered by the press or play it safe and rely on your bats?
The way they hit last night, I really thought they'd be more agressive when they had a shot. Kinda blew my mind.

The officiating is still subpar, but it seems to be coming around. I'd like to see the "FoxBox" go away completely. It's annoying and isn't helping anything. Balls and strikes are whatever the umpire makes them. If you see three pitches over the plate, as a hitter, you better jump. There's not a major league pitcher who's not going to take advantage of a 28 inch wide home plate when he's got it, and rightfully so.

Props to AJ and Pedro both. Man, I love watching good pitching.
There's some of the most brilliant minds in ball in this series. I can't wait for the next game. :tu

[BigAsh]

:r
No doubt thus far, a great series.
I would be shocked if it doesn't go 7 games as I have felt from the onset




Phillies needed one of the two games and they got it.
Yankees needed last night as a must win and they got it.
While I will gladly admit Lee was on fire the first game, I was blown away by the movement on Burnett's pitches last night. There were some that looked like they were headed for the batter and would move right into the strike zone at the last second. The dip on his breaking ball was amazing.
Both winning pitchers did an amazing job of shutting down great hitting.

I was laughing my butt off with the wife.
She despises Pedro and you should have heard the slurs being yelled in my family room by her.:r


Gotta love "chicks" and baseball!.....:r

[Blueface]

Gotta love "chicks" and baseball!.....:r

I swear I heard new cuss words that were yet to be invented.
We were both laying on our sectional sofa, shaped like a V, with our heads meeting at the center and our feet towards the two ends. Each time she yelled, I jumped. My left ear is still throbbing. I finally had to leave her alone and go to the bedroom to watch it. Then in the top of the 8th, she comes over to the bedroom. Thank God Pedro was out of the game by then.:r

[BigAsh]

:r:r...... Now that's a WS moment to remember!

[Blueface]

Interesting read.
The Phillies have Mariano figured out.
Will we just add them to the list that thought the same thing or will they indeed be added to the list containing the Diamondbacks? Time will tell.
Clicky (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12441317)

[MedicCook]

I like how the Phillies in that article brought up the double play the Yankees got when Utley was safe but they ignored the double the Phillies got which was also a blown call and would have given the Yankees the bases loaded with 1 out.

[BigAsh]

I like how the Phillies in that article brought up the double play the Yankees got when Utley was safe but they ignored the double the Phillies got which was also a blown call and would have given the Yankees the bases loaded with 1 out.


stop nit-picking....you got the win....I think we can all agree on one thing....the umpiring, thru-out the playoffs, BLOWS!

[Blueface]

stop nit-picking....you got the win....I think we can all agree on one thing....the umpiring, thru-out the playoffs, BLOWS!

It is truly shameful.
It has been horrific with all the series.

Unreal that six umpires gathered to make a call where the dirt was kicked up in the air by the ball, yet called it an out.
Given it was a close call to be exact, I truly wonder how the other five had a perspective in that discussion.
I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

[floydpink]

I swear I heard new cuss words that were yet to be invented.
We were both laying on our sectional sofa, shaped like a V, with our heads meeting at the center and our feet towards the two ends. Each time she yelled, I jumped. My left ear is still throbbing. I finally had to leave her alone and go to the bedroom to watch it. Then in the top of the 8th, she comes over to the bedroom. Thank God Pedro was out of the game by then.:r

Kinda off topic, but still interesting.

On one of my several trips to the Dominican Republic, I asked one of the kids in my bad spanish, why they all Red Sox caps and he replied, "because we are Dominican, and so is Pedro Martinez".

They start very young there and use anything they can get their hands on to fashion a bat, ball, and bases. I would say 90% of the hats you see are Red Sox hats.

I never could figure it out as just about every MLB team has Dominicans on the roster. I even sat with Jose Lima on a flight and never saw an Astro hat in all my trips, but he recieved a heros welcome in Puerto Plata airport.

[BigAsh]

It is truly shameful.
It has been horrific with all the series.

Unreal that six umpires gathered to make a call where the dirt was kicked up in the air by the ball, yet called it an out.
Given it was a close call to be exact, I truly wonder how the other five had a perspective in that discussion.
I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

hahaha....I was thinking the same thing.....gotta feeling "replay" buzz will be high at the winter meetings...

[BigAsh]

Kinda off topic, but still interesting.

On one of my several trips to the Dominican Republic, I asked one of the kids in my bad spanish, why they all Red Sox caps and he replied, "because we are Dominican, and so is Pedro Martinez".

They start very young there and use anything they can get their hands on to fashion a bat, ball, and bases. I would say 90% of the hats you see are Red Sox hats.

I never could figure it out as just about every MLB team has Dominicans on the roster. I even sat with Jose Lima on a flight and never saw an Astro hat in all my trips, but he recieved a heros welcome in Puerto Plata airport.

It's the "Nation".....plus Pedro, in his day was "the MAN".....any skinny Dominican kid had to idolize him....

[yourchoice]

Interesting read.
The Phillies have Mariano figured out.
Will we just add them to the list that thought the same thing or will they indeed be added to the list containing the Diamondbacks? Time will tell.
Clicky (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12441317)

What did you expect them to say? "He's too good, we can't hit him."

This seems like a story about nothing to me. :2

[ade06]

I wish I could have overheard it just for laughs.

I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

[feznuk]

Ade, I bet you got more than half of that right on.

The way I look at it each team lost an opportunity to possibly score some runs, so I call it even. I don't feel like either call significantly influenced the outcome of the game. The Yankees got a good win and now it's time to get ready for game 3.

[BigAsh]

I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r:r.....hahaha....Damn, I wish I could type....that's classic!

[kelmac07]

:r:r.....hahaha....Damn, I wish I could type....that's classic!

:tpd: LOL!!

[VirtualSmitty]

I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r I bet the conversation did sound something like that.

[Blueface]

I heard it... It went something like this.

1st Base Ump: "Oh shiit, big arss Howard blocked my view of the ball. I don't want to blow this call. You know everyone at home is watching the replay in slow motion."

The rest of the Umps: "Dude you were like 15 feet away from the play, if you didn't see it, how in the hell are we supposed to?" Here you go again, making us overpaid umps blow another play. Well let's all stand around sratching our butts, so we look like were taking this seriously."

1st Base Ump: "I got it, let's just throw a coin up in the air, heads the ball was caught on the fly, tails the ball one hopped. It's a 50/50 chance of making the right call."

Home plate Ump: "Sounds like a plan to me. Since I've been blowing calls all series, 50% sure sounds good to me."

The rest of the Umps: "Ok, now who has a coin... No one responds..."

1st Base Ump: "Man F this, Howard is a big dude and I'm not going back there and reversing my call. I'll take the 50% chance that I got the call right. It's only game #2 and neither team will remember the call when its all said and done."

The rest of the Umps: "Agreed!"

:r:r:r
Man I swear that is exactly how I envisioned it going.

[The Poet]

Well, that game last night played out pretty much as I forsaw it, except that A.J managed to keep his focus and not have that one crappy inning. As for Pedro - well, he was Pedro against the Yanks, as usual. He kept them off-balance for the most part, made a couple of mistakes he hasn't the stuff to get away with, and was done after 100 pitches. Hey, that's him - unless he gets squeezed, when he then gives up 5 or 6 runs after 3 innings. Well, nobody got squeezed last night - I swear, that plate was about 22 inches wide, for both sides.

Speaking of both sides, the "double play" in the bottom of the 7th was offset by the "double play" in the top of the 8th, and was a wash. As for the Phillies figuring out Mo, I believe they have - come up, take weak hacks and hope to make contact and get some bleeders, raise their false hopes, then go back to the dugout as losers. :r

[Blueface]

Game 3......8 hours and counting.

[MedicCook]

Let's Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Poet]

Yeah, let's - and let's hope the weather's not too bad.

[MedicCook]

Cliff Lee was pushed back to game 5.

[The Poet]

I noticed yesterday they were starting Blanton game 4 - against I presume C.C.? Hey, if Andy wins tonight, and the Phils are looking at possibly going down 3-1, will they stick with that plan?

[MedicCook]

Cliff Lee has never picthed on 3 days rest and they don't want to experiment in the World Series.

[The Poet]

Cliff Lee has never picthed on 3 days rest and they don't want to experiment in the World Series.

Yeah, OK, but still - jeez.

[MedicCook]

He should be ok to pitch game 7 if needed they said since that would be his throw day. I am still saying Yankees in 6 so it will be a non-factor.

[yourchoice]

I like that they don't throw their guys on short rest. Never did it last year, although they (the media) were contemplating it in the first series with the Brewers. Pitchers in this era aren't used to it, and most are nowhere near as effective as they are on regular rest. I agree with the decision, regardless of where the series stands. It will be interesting to see how effective Sabathia is with 3 days, assuming he pitches game 4 (is that definite?).

Of course, if there's a 7th game, everyone is available to pitch, but I don't think it will go that long...Phillies will finish the job before then.

[The Poet]

Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

[Blueface]

Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

Yeah, totally sucked.:r

Kidding aside, not his best that we have seen but certainly got the job done, and good enough for the win.
If that is C.C. not doing well with three days rest, bring him on!!!

[yourchoice]

Yeah, C.C. was lousy on 3 days rest against the Angels - 8 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 Ks, and 1 win.

Problem is he won't be playing against the Angels.... Here's his line from last year on 3 days against the Phils in the NLDS:

3 2/3 innings, 6 hits, 5 runs, 5 earned, 4 walks, 5 Ks, 2.727 WHIP and 1 loss. :ss

[The Poet]

Yeah, Joel, you're absolutely right - the Yankees just might as well not even show up for the games at all. The Phillies are gods, and the Yanks are slobs.

[yourchoice]

Yeah, Joel, you're absolutely right - the Yankees just might as well not even show up for the games at all. The Phillies are gods, and the Yanks are slobs.
Huh?

[The Poet]

Huh?

Well, you say C.C. won't be playing against the Angels, when it seems obvious that your guys have yet to realize they are not playing Tampa Bay either.

[yourchoice]

Well, you say C.C. won't be playing against the Angels, when it seems obvious that your guys have yet to realize they are not playing Tampa Bay either.

Not sure how Tampa Bay fits into the CC on 3 days discussion, but whatever.

[VirtualSmitty]

CC will be fine with three days rest. He hasn't done it much this year and when he has he's been very effective. Last year with the Brewers he pitched on short rest almost all of september, after that stint I think a few games here and there won't be a big deal.

We'll see how Cole Hamels is today. So far he hasn't been that good this post season. Should be a good match up tonight! And off topic, Hamels did an ad which made me LoL! (NSFW)

http://kotaku.com/5394032/cole-hamels-reminds-you-that-grenades-are-for-pussies

[The Poet]

It's the general tenor of the Phillie fan posts here, Joel. No offense, but you all seem to give the Yankees no props and no chance. It's one thing to pull for your team - it's quite another to "diss" the opposition. As for myself, I know very well that the games will be played on the field, not on this keyboard.

You want an example? Well, you attempted to dismiss C.C. on short rest with one example, yet you guys are counting on "the real Cole Hamels" to show up tonight - against one of the most successful post-season pitchers ever. Have you considered the possibility that last year's Hamels was the fluke, and the '09 version IS the real one? History is replete with young pitchers who have shown great early promise, yet quickly became so-so footnotes. Hey, I'm not saying the Phils can't win tonight, or can't win it all - I know they can. I just don't think they will. I have yet to see any Phillie fan on here be anything but certain that they will beat the Yankees, and easily. As a Yankee fan, I don't agree. As a baseball fan, I find that thinking dangerous - one dare not anger the baseball gods.

[yourchoice]

Hamels is the big question mark on the staff. If he doesn't pitch well tonight and/or later in the series the Phils chances are greatly (very greatly) reduced.

[The Poet]

There's light sprinkles here up the Trunpike - what's the weather in Philly?

[Blueface]

Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.

[pnoon]

Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.
I'll hold down the fort, Carlos.

Made some chili today and some fresh jalapeno rolls to enjoy while the Yankees take a 2-1 lead.

[yourchoice]

Hey, Yankees fellows, hold the fort.
I have a greater calling this evening.
Yeah, in spite of how much it will bother me to not watch the game's initial innings, my grandson and Halloween have first dibs.
Let's hope for a great game, with a Yankees win as the outcome.

Enjoy the time with your grandson Carlos! I just got back from Trick-or-Treating with my two daughters (6 and 3). They had a blast. Now it's time to load them up with chocolate and sugar and see how long it takes them to go to sleep. :r

[yourchoice]

It's the general tenor of the Phillie fan posts here, Joel. No offense, but you all seem to give the Yankees no props and no chance. It's one thing to pull for your team - it's quite another to "diss" the opposition. As for myself, I know very well that the games will be played on the field, not on this keyboard.

You want an example? Well, you attempted to dismiss C.C. on short rest with one example, yet you guys are counting on "the real Cole Hamels" to show up tonight - against one of the most successful post-season pitchers ever. Have you considered the possibility that last year's Hamels was the fluke, and the '09 version IS the real one? History is replete with young pitchers who have shown great early promise, yet quickly became so-so footnotes. Hey, I'm not saying the Phils can't win tonight, or can't win it all - I know they can. I just don't think they will. I have yet to see any Phillie fan on here be anything but certain that they will beat the Yankees, and easily. As a Yankee fan, I don't agree. As a baseball fan, I find that thinking dangerous - one dare not anger the baseball gods.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. I consider you all BOTL's...key the "B". I'm truly typing each post with a smile on my face and am considering it friendly banter. The only time I don't is when someone gets overly emotional with one of my posts, which is not my intent.
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Back on topic, I've seen a lot of examples of pitchers not performing well on 3 days. Would they have pitched better with regular rest? I don't know. Obviously, there are also plenty of examples of pitchers pitching well on three days. FWIW, I didn't "diss" CC. I said it would be interesting to see how he performs on 3-days (no diss IMO). My next post was just a retort to the praise given. For many examples I give, I am sure there are others refuting mine. No biggie.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I truly believe the best two teams in baseball are playing in the WS. It's not my intent to diss the Yankees. But if the Phillies are dissed, I will defend them if, and when merited.

If anything I have said in the thread has been "dissing" the Yankees, I apologize. I will not apologize for calling their pen "suspect" (other than Rivera obviously). It's my opinion it is and I do not consider it a diss. I will not apologize for predicting Phillies in 5. It was a prediction...admittedly bold and a better chance to be wrong than right, as any prediction of 4 or 5 games would have been with either team winning. Aside from those two things, I am not sure where it could be considered that I dissed them.

Am I certain the Phillies will win the series? Oh God no! I think I said either in another thread or another forum altogether that while I predicted Phils in 5, I could see it being anywhere from Phils in 5 to Yanks in 5. Based on the "tenor" of this thread, I can see why I didn't say that here. I did sayIf someone predicted the Yankees in 5 I wouldn't be insulted. I wouldn't be shocked by any outcome in this series.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but if you don't like my "tenor"....too bad. The "tenor" by some Yankee fans in thread has been ....entertaining.... but they are fans of them, so it's kind of expected and I actually enjoy it. Don't believe me? Reread some of the thread and try to read it from a Phillies fan's perspective. I'd truly be surprised if you didn't see it this way. Want an example? Since it doesn't bother me, I won't single anyone else out except for the accuser. :)
...Yet anyone who looks at it objectively must admit the Yankees have the edge in - well, in everything, really.
Did someone order a diss at this table? :r <--- said in jest, please don't take offense.


Now I'm going to go grab a cigar and a Scotch and wait this rain delay out. It's going to be a late night. Luckily we gain an hour tonight. :sleep:

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And off topic, Hamels did an ad which made me LoL! (NSFW)

http://kotaku.com/5394032/cole-hamels-reminds-you-that-grenades-are-for-pussies

Aw man, the video was taken down!