just a little frustrated at my gov.

[troy d.]

today was a hard day. i work for civil service at a naval aviation repair center. i work as a jet engine mechanic for the f414 plat form. it is what powers ef-18's. or f-18's. the gov. has cut the military roughly around 30%. this cut was retro active. when the president took office. i worry about the pilots that fly the planes and the people on the ground that they provide air support for. my question for you to ponder is this: how do we sleep at night knowing that our troops are not getting what they need to do their job? you see they can't do the job correctly when they only get 70%.

[troy d.]

today was a hard day. i work for civil service at a naval aviation repair center. i work as a jet engine mechanic for the f414 plat form. it is what powers ef-18's. or f-18's. the gov. has cut the military roughly around 30%. this cut was retro active. when the president took office. i worry about the pilots that fly the planes and the people on the ground that they provide air support for. my question for you to ponder is this: how do we sleep at night knowing that our troops are not getting what they need to do their job? you see they can't do the job correctly when they only get 70%.
i know that i should not talk about the gov. but this is not about politics is about how i feel for my military.

[Blueface]

OK, I'll bite.
First, doubt it won't end up political if starts with being upset at a Governor.
Next and more important, what does the Governor of Florida (Charlie Crist) have to do with the US military expenditure?
I'll view this as a new learning experience for me.

[markem]

You accusations against the members of CA is far, far across the line, little ashhole. Your implication that you are one of the few who cares or contributes is repugnant and insipid.

Close your account, go away, and if you ever grow up, try it all again.

[sikk50]

OK, I'll bite.
First, doubt it won't end up political if starts with being upset at a Governor.
Next and more important, what does the Governor of Florida (Charlie Crist) have to do with the US military expenditure?
I'll view this as a new learning experience for me.

Gov = Government

And I agree. When I was a park ranger they wanted us to "police" the park with nothing but cell phones. Can't do our jobs without the tools to keep us safe to finish them.

[Blueface]

Gov = Government


:r:r:r
Thanks.
I guess I must the only one that uses Gov for Governor and Govt for GovernmenT.

[timo]

You accusations against the members of CA is far, far across the line, little ashhole. Your implication that you are one of the few who cares or contributes is repugnant and insipid.

Close your account, go away, and if you ever grow up, try it all again.
:confused:

[mikeandshellie2]

I'm guessing I missed something in this thread.

[timo]

I'm guessing I missed something in this thread.
Good it's not just me:)

[loki]

You accusations against the members of CA is far, far across the line, little ashhole. Your implication that you are one of the few who cares or contributes is repugnant and insipid.

Close your account, go away, and if you ever grow up, try it all again.

there's ummm something i'm missing here

[troy d.]

OK, I'll bite.
First, doubt it won't end up political if starts with being upset at a Governor.
Next and more important, what does the Governor of Florida (Charlie Crist) have to do with the US military expenditure?
I'll view this as a new learning experience for me.
gentlemen it is the federal gov. not state gov. sorry for missed communication

[itsme_timd]

there's ummm something i'm missing here

Me too.

[timo]

yeah I'm missing my bed. Good night!

[VirtualSmitty]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3483112237_8174eb7f24.jpg

:)

[troy d.]

oh man! i'm glad to be looking at computer screen. some you all seem a little mad. i never said that C.A. members don't care about the military. you guys want to express your thoughts. i express my thoughts through asking questions. there is no accusing going on here.

[SeanGAR]

What kind of weed you smoking down there, son?

For the 2009 fiscal year, the base budget of the Department of Defense rose to $518.3 billion. Adding emergency discretionary spending, supplemental spending, and stimulus spending brings the sum to $651.2 billion.[1][2] Defense-related expenditures outside of the Department of Defense constitute between $274 billion and $493 billion in additional spending, bringing the total for defense spending to between $925 billion and $1.14 trillion in 2009.[3]from wiki

[troy d.]

What kind of weed you smoking down there, son?

For the 2009 fiscal year, the base budget of the Department of Defense rose to $518.3 billion. Adding emergency discretionary spending, supplemental spending, and stimulus spending brings the sum to $651.2 billion.[1][2] Defense-related expenditures outside of the Department of Defense constitute between $274 billion and $493 billion in additional spending, bringing the total for defense spending to between $925 billion and $1.14 trillion in 2009.[3]from wiki
i did not go to wiki for my information. my program manager has quarterly meeting after every quarter. he tells us what we are being budgeted through out the year. over this past fiscal here we lost roughly 30% give or take few percent.

[SeanGAR]

i did not go to wiki for my information. my program manager has quarterly meeting after every quarter. he tells us what we are being budgeted through out the year. over this past fiscal here we lost roughly 30% give or take few percent.

The military spending has gone UP with Obama in office, not a 30% cut that you blamed on him in your post. If the military can't budget properly that really isn't Obama's fault, is it?

Lets review: Military spending has gone up in 2009 after Obama has taken office. If your program has been cut, you might find those responsible and blame them .. it sure as hell isn't Obama.

[Tenor CS]

I'm starting a collection to buy Troy a shift key for his keyboard.

While I understand that writing ability has nothing to do with mechanical skill*, I would be more scared that multi-million dollar aircraft and pilots' lives are being entrusted to someone who writes at below a sixth-grade level.

You might be a great mechanic, and I hope you are, but your posts are extremely difficult to read, partly because of their extremely random nature, partly because of the lack of adhering to conventions when it comes to punctuation, capitalization, etc.

* I've seen this in my own family. My father barely graduated high school, but he can rebuild a carburetor. I have a Master's degree with an English minor in my undergrad, I can build a computer from parts, but I can't even change my oil.

[troy d.]

where are you finding that military spending has gone up and in what areas. i work at naval air station jacksonville fl. flight hours on that base alone have gone from 50,000 hours a year to 35,000 hours a year. that is result of a budget reduction. not because the military didn't budget correctly. military budgets are given through quarterly installments. this 30% reduction is not on one program here or one program there. this happened across the whole military.

[Genetic Defect]

OK, I'll bite.
First, doubt it won't end up political if starts with being upset at a Governor.
Next and more important, what does the Governor of Florida (Charlie Crist) have to do with the US military expenditure?
I'll view this as a new learning experience for me.

as always :D

[Genetic Defect]

i did not go to wiki for my information. my program manager has quarterly meeting after every quarter. he tells us what we are being budgeted through out the year. over this past fiscal here we lost roughly 30% give or take few percent.

this made me snicker, would he ever have quarterly meetings weekly?

[MedicCook]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

[troy d.]

me not using my shift key has nothing to do with my writing skill or my grammar ability. on my computer i get lazy. i don't like using the shift button. on the job there is no laziness involved. i have to sign for everything i do or touch on the engine. i can be sent to prison if i am found guilty of being negligent of wrong mechanic procedure.

[Genetic Defect]

these are for 2010
Funding Highlights:
• Provides $533.7 billion for the Department of Defense base budget in 2010, a four-percent
increase over 2009.
• Includes $75.5 billion in supplemental appropriations for 2009 and $130.0 billion for 2010 to
support ongoing overseas contingency operations, while increasing efforts in Afghanistan and
drawing down troops from Iraq responsibly.
• Supports a transparent budget process, which simultaneously and separately requests
estimated base budget and overseas contingency operations costs.

[Genetic Defect]

.:tf

[MedicCook]

.:tf

No pie chart Perry? I really like pie charts.

[Genetic Defect]

No pie chart Perry? I really like pie charts.

;s

[MedicCook]

;s

How about some pie with out the chart?

[troy d.]

i can see this is turning into a big debate. that is not what i was trying to do. i can only express my thoughts about what i see happening where i am living and working. that is what i was pursuing, i wanted to express my thoughts. boy did i ever open up a can of worms. i think i will stick to my poems and humor. even though i'm not that good.

[croatan]

i can see this is turning into a big debate. that is not what i was trying to do.

Great. Then I'm going to close this. There are plenty of places to talk politics on the internet. Cigar Asylum is not one of them.

[bobarian]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2797/pieeaten.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/pieeaten.jpg/)

It couldnt be the case that your boss gave you a self-serving view of the budget in order to cover up waste and mismanagement. :rolleyes:

[Genetic Defect]

;s I didn't think my posts were over the top