Well...

[Da Klugs]

In the United States Army (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Army), United States Air Force (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Air_Force), and United States Marine Corps (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps), general is a four-star (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/4_star_rank) general officer (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_officer) rank, with the pay grade (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/U.S._uniformed_services_pay_grades) of O-10. General ranks above lieutenant general (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Lieutenant_general_(United_States)) and below General of the Army (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_of_the_Army_(United_States)) or General of the Air Force (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_of_the_Air_Force_(United_States)); the Marine Corps does not have an established grade above general. General is equivalent to the rank of admiral (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Admiral_(United_States)) in the other uniformed services (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_United_States). Since the grades of General of the Army and General of the Air Force are reserved for war-time use only, and since the Marine Corps has no five-star equivalent, the grade of general is currently considered to be the highest appointment an officer can achieve in these three services.

[dunng]

:hm

[Mugen910]

Linky no worky sir.

[Da Klugs]

:hm

Is this the wrong forum for "General Discussion"? :D

Grant was the man!

[Blueface]

Is this the wrong forum for "General Discussion"? :D

Grant was the man!

:r:r:r

[massphatness]

I like Ike.

[Cigargal]

Too early in the morning!

[ahc4353]

So based on this we should call Tom, General? I don't see anything about Grant. :tt

[TripleF]

:r :r :r


That's funny right there, I don't care who you are......


Thanks Dave!!

[Darrell]

:r

[kelmac07]

I like Ike.

:tpd: :tu

[bvilchez]

:r:r:r:r:r

[pinokio]

:r:r

[Whee]

Looks like the orderly forgot to give Klugs his meds this morning.:r

[ahc4353]

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4415211/2/istockphoto_4415211-tobacco-leaf-2.jpg Correct

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sZKVTlcKpFY/R5D8_I94ybI/AAAAAAAAABU/64hdDdApJn0/s400/Pot+Leaf.jpg Incorrect

Might have grabbed the wrong leaf this morning. :D

[14holestogie]

I was wondering where the h Klugs was going with this thread, but now....


:r:r:r:r

[TheTraveler]

Links don't work for me.

[themoneycollector]

Might have grabbed the wrong leaf this morning. :D


:r:r:r

[Da Klugs]

Name GRANT, Ulysses Simpson (Hiram Ulysses)
Born April 27 1822, Point Pleasant OH
Died July 23 1885, Mount McGregor NY
Pre-War Profession Graduated West Point 1843, Mexican war, garrison duty, resigned 1854, firewood pedlar, store clerk.
War Service 1861 commanded a camp of instruction, June 1861 Col. of 21st Illinois, May 1861 appointed Brig. Gen. of Volunteers, Belmont, Fts Henry and Donelson, February 1862 promoted Maj. Gen. of Volunteers, commanded Army of the Tennessee, Shiloh, Vicksburg campaign, July 1863 promoted Maj. Gen. in Regular Army, Chattanooga campaign, March 1864 Lt. Gen. and general-in-chief, Overland campaign.
Post War Career Army service, US president, businessman, writer.
Notes He was the general that Lincoln had been looking for.
On the Internet Ulysses S. Grant Homepage (http://www.mscomm.com/~ulysses/)
Further reading
Anderson, Nancy Scott The generals : Ulysses S. Grant and Robert E. Lee New York, Wings Books, 1994
Badeau, Adam Military history of Ulysses S. Grant, from April, 1861 to April, 1865 New York, 1868-1881
Dana, Charles A The life of Ulysses S. Grant : general of the armies of the United States Springfield MA, Gurdon Bill & Co., 1868
Grant, Ulysses S Personal memoirs of U.S. Grant Blue Ridge Summit PA, TabBooks, 1991
Lewis, Lloyd Captain Sam Grant Boston, Little, Brown, 1950

[Mugen910]

In the United States Army (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Army), United States Air Force (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Air_Force), and United States Marine Corps (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps), general is a four-star (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/4_star_rank) general officer (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_officer) rank, with the pay grade (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/U.S._uniformed_services_pay_grades) of O-10. General ranks above lieutenant general (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Lieutenant_general_(United_States)) and below General of the Army (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_of_the_Army_(United_States)) or General of the Air Force (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/General_of_the_Air_Force_(United_States)); the Marine Corps does not have an established grade above general. General is equivalent to the rank of admiral (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Admiral_(United_States)) in the other uniformed services (http://www.cigarasylum.com/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_United_States). Since the grades of General of the Army and General of the Air Force are reserved for war-time use only, and since the Marine Corps has no five-star equivalent, the grade of general is currently considered to be the highest appointment an officer can achieve in these three services.

I think we don't have a 4+ star General because we are considered a Dept of the Navy. (Men's Dept ;)) So having a 5-star would be of no use considering a 5-star in the Navy is only activated during war-time. (I think) Unless they want to have a 5-star inactive like the Navy.

[Riff Raff]

In keeping with the "general" theme of this thread, I give you the following:

The history of General Cigar Company, Inc. is the story of one family and its love of tobacco. It is a rich and colorful story of tobacco dealers, growers, and entrepreneurs, which stretches over 150 years.

http://www.cigarworld.com/about/history.aspx

For the full story, if you are so inclined.

[68TriShield]

Some very frank General Discussion there partner :)

[TheTraveler]

I think we don't have a 4+ star General because we are considered a Dept of the Navy. (Men's Dept ;)) So having a 5-star would be of no use considering a 5-star in the Navy is only activated during war-time. (I think) Unless they want to have a 5-star inactive like the Navy.

:r :r

Yep, we get MORE done using LESS. :tu

:wo

[Mr.Maduro]

I like Patton.....

George S. Patton
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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"Patton" redirects here. For other uses, see Patton (disambiguation).
For other persons named George Patton, see George Patton (disambiguation).
George Smith Patton III
November 11, 1885 (1885-11-11) – December 21, 1945 (1945-12-22) (aged 60)

Then Lieutenant General George S. Patton
Nickname Old Blood and Guts
Place of birth San Gabriel, California
Place of death Heidelberg, Germany
Allegiance United States
Service/branch United States Army
Years of service 1909–1945
Rank General
Commands held Machinegun Platoon/3/15th Cavalry Regiment
K/3/15th Cavalry Regiment
A/1/7th Cavalry Regiment
HQs Troop/American Expeditionary Force
302nd Tank Center
1st Light Tank Battalion
1st Light Tank Regiment
1st Tank Brigade
304th Tank Brigade
3/3rd Cavalry Regiment
5th Cavalry Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2/2nd Armored Division
2nd Armored Division
US 1st Armored Corps
Desert Training Center
US 1st Armored Corps
U.S. II Corps
US 1st Armored Corps
U.S. Seventh Army
U.S. Third Army
U.S. Fifteenth Army
Battles/wars Mexican Revolution
*Battle of San Miguelito
World War I
*Saint Mihiel Campaign
*Meuse-Argonne Campaign
World War II
*North Africa Campaign
*Sicily Campaign
*Normandy Campaign
*Lorraine Campaign
*Ardennes Campaign
Awards Distinguished Service Cross (2)
Distinguished Service Medal (3)
Silver Star (2)
Legion of Merit
Bronze Star
Purple Heart
Order of the Bath
Order of the British Empire
Relations Major General George Patton IV (son)
General John K. Waters (Son in law)
George Smith Patton, Jr. (also George Smith Patton III) (November 11, 1885 – December 21, 1945) was a United States Army officer most famous for his commanding corps and armies as a General in North Africa, Sicily, and the European Theater of Operations during World War II. He was also widely known for his controversial outspokenness and strong opinions.

Commissioned in the army in 1909, Patton participated in the unsuccessful attempt to capture Pancho Villa in 1916-17. In World War I, he was the first officer assigned to the new United States Tank Corps[1][2] and saw action in France. After the war he was a strong advocate of armored warfare.

It was in World War II that he made his mark, commanding both corps and armies as a general in North Africa, Sicily, and the European Theater of Operations. Near the end of the Sicilian campaign, Patton jeopardized his career by slapping a soldier recuperating from battle fatigue at a hospital; Patton considered him a coward. The well-publicized incident caused General Dwight D. Eisenhower to relieve him of command. Thus, instead of playing a major part in the Normandy Landings and Operation Overlord, he was relegated to commanding the decoy mission Operation Quicksilver. However, he was later given command of the U.S. Third Army and ably led it in breaking out of the hedgerows of Normandy and across France. When a surprise major German offensive at the Battle of the Bulge resulted in American units being surrounded in Bastogne, Patton rapidly disengaged his army from fighting in another sector and moved it over 100 miles in 48 hours to relieve the siege.

Patton often got into trouble with his outspokenness and strong opinions. In addition to the slapping incident, towards the end of the war, he voiced his detestation and mistrust of the Soviet Union and his desire to fight it. However, he was greeted warmly by the public when he returned to the United States in June 1945. He died in December of that year in an automobile accident. His career during the war was the subject of the Academy Award-winning film Patton.

[ahc4353]

Since Dave (trishield) brought him up. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/TommyFranks_cropped.jpg/200px-TommyFranks_cropped.jpg
General Tommy Ray Franks, United States Army, KBE, (born 17 June 1945 in Wynnewood, Oklahoma) is a retired General in the United States Army. His last Army post was as the Commander of the United States Central Command, overseeing United States Armed Forces operations in a 25-country region, including the Middle East. Franks succeeded General Anthony Zinni to this position on 6 July 2000 and served until his retirement on 7 July 2003.

Franks was the U.S. general leading the attack on the Taliban in Afghanistan in response to the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon in 2001. He also led the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

[Mugen910]

I have a Commandant Coin from this man...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/James_L._Jones.jpg/225px-James_L._Jones.jpg

James Logan Jones Jr. (born December 19, 1943) is the current United States National Security Advisor and a retired United States Marine Corps four-star general.

During his military career, he served as Commander, United States European Command (COMUSEUCOM) and Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) from 2003 to 2006 and as the 32nd Commandant of the Marine Corps from July 1999 to January 2003. Jones retired from the Marine Corps on February 1, 2007, after 40 years of service.

After retiring from the Marine Corps, Jones remained involved in national security and foreign policy issues. In 2007, Jones served as chairman of the Congressional Independent Commission on the Security Forces of Iraq, which investigated the capabilities of the Iraqi police and armed forces. In November 2007, he was appointed by the U.S. Secretary of State as special envoy for Middle East security. He served as chairman of the Atlantic Council of the United States from June 2007 to January 2009, when he assumed the post of National Security Advisor.

[dogface_313]

"In war there is no substitute for victory."

[hotreds]

I drive by Grant's birthplace at least once a week. He also grew up in Georgetown, Ohio, which is just down the road from me as well. HOORAH!

[hotreds]

http://www.thefontman.com/chesty_puller.jpg

Paper-work will ruin any military force"
- Lieutenant-General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller

"You don't hurt 'em if you don't hit 'em."
- Lieutenant-General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller

When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat,
Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered:
"If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them."
Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question?
We're here to fight." At Koto-ri in Korea
- Chesty Puller at Koto-ri in Korea
(From "Marine: The Life of Chesty Puller" by Burke Davis)

"The mail service has been excellent out here, and in my opinion this is all that the
Air Force has accomplished during the war."
- Chesty Puller in a letter to his wife while in Korea

"Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
- Chesty Puller motivating his men at Chosin Reservoir

"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race!"
-Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". "
Major General Chesty Puller, USMC - while on a Battalion inspection.

"We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem."
- Attributed to Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
(I have found three versions of this one)
The quotes may not be Chesty Pullers,
but may instead have been said by General O.P.Smith

"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of
us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an
enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
When the Marines were cut off behind enemy lines and the Army had written
the 1st Marine Division off as being lost because they were surrounded by 22
enemy divisions. The Marines made it out inflicting the highest casualty
ratio on an enemy in history and destroying 7 entire enemy divisions in the
process. An enemy division is 16500+ men while a Marine division is 12500 men.

"They are a damn site better than the U.S. Army, at least we know that they
will be there in the morning."
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller
when a journalist asked him about being surrounded by 22. enemy divisions

"there are not enough chinamen in the world to stop a fully armed Marine regiment
from going where ever they wont to go"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller

[The Poet]

I find this discussion admirable.

[Blueface]

I drive by Grant's birthplace at least once a week. He also grew up in Georgetown, Ohio, which is just down the road from me as well. HOORAH!

Wow!
I use to drive by Grant's tomb every day.
We have something in common!!!
You drive by where he began and I drove by where it ended.:r

[Blueface]

I find this discussion admirable.

Generally speaking, of course.

[Skywalker]

My breakfast was made by...
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YWoQh3T0Q4hHkM:http://www.mentorscout.com/images/general_mills.gif

[replicant_argent]

Well....
At least there is no Admiral Discussion...








Wait, there are the 4,343 pages of banter...




As you were...

[Starscream]

This one took me a minute to catch on. I kept clicking the link and wondering what was wrong.

[TheTraveler]

This one took me a minute to catch on. I kept clicking the link and wondering what was wrong.

Me too! It was one of those days. I kept looking at the calendar to make sure it wasn't Monday. :r um :tf

[CasaDooley]

I think we don't have a 4+ star General because we are considered a Dept of the Navy. (Men's Dept ;)) So having a 5-star would be of no use considering a 5-star in the Navy is only activated during war-time. (I think) Unless they want to have a 5-star inactive like the Navy.

Like socks and underware? Course the NAV is like the CRAFTSMAN TOOLS Dept in Sears(more tools, more power):r

Sorry Bao, just had to "git some" Bro;)

[TheTraveler]

Like socks and underware? Course the NAV is like the CRAFTSMAN TOOLS Dept in Sears(more tools, more power):r

Sorry Bao, just had to "git some" Bro;)

Yep yep, the Navy ..... generally considered to be the world's finest taxi service. Not only will they deliver you to your dangerous destination on time they make a fine cup of joe too. :tu