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Ender
10-23-2008, 02:55 PM
I hear so much talk about slow toasting the foot of the stick as opposed to lighting while you draw. I would love to hear some opinions on this matter. Personally I draw while the heat of the flame is barely close enough to touch the foot. What do yas think?

NCRadioMan
10-23-2008, 03:00 PM
To each his own. I light it right up while drawing on it. Never found that toasting made a difference.

Scottw
10-23-2008, 03:04 PM
I light it without drawing if I have my torch handy. I think it is just habit.

zmancbr
10-23-2008, 03:06 PM
I will toast the foot until it is pretty charred and then take a draw or two to make sure that it is lit and it burning evenly.

So I guess I do both! :ss

Da Klugs
10-23-2008, 03:08 PM
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again. :)

Mugen910
10-23-2008, 03:14 PM
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again. :)

Da Klugs style is the one I imitate. :tu

Golfman
10-23-2008, 03:14 PM
I find that toasting it for a few seconds creates an even burn and requires less draw to fully light the smoke. When i draw a lot on an untoasted foot i tend to drool a little bit on the cigar which i try and avoid

ucla695
10-23-2008, 03:42 PM
I toast the foot of the cigar evenly and then light it while drawing. I've haven't tried Da Klugs method in a while so I'll give that a try this weekend.

zmancbr
10-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Da Klugs style is the one I imitate. :tu

Often imitated but never duplicated.... :D

bigloo
10-23-2008, 05:18 PM
Used to draw, then toast, used a bottle of butane in a month, went back to drawing (not to save gas, but to save filling up my lighters every week). After the draw I breath through the cigar to expel any super hot smoke...thats my method at least, each his own.

Mugen910
10-23-2008, 05:25 PM
Da Klugs style is the one I imitate. :tu

Often imitated but never duplicated.... :D

Tru Tru :bh

Ashcan Bill
10-23-2008, 05:26 PM
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again. :)

I found it interesting that Dave and I not only light them pretty much the same, but smoke them pretty much the same as far as the way we exhale out the old snout. More in the begining, less if strong/tanic, etc.

Tragically we part ways on the cut. I generally punch the little buggers. Sometimes they squeal.

Volt
10-23-2008, 05:33 PM
To each his own. I light it right up while drawing on it. Never found that toasting made a difference.

:tpd:

I don't care for the taste toasting gives the foot. In fact, give me a triple flame on high and stoke that puppy up.

ucubed
10-23-2008, 05:41 PM
I toast a bit, up to the point that I can see most of the foot is lit, then I begin to draw and light to make sure it is completely lit and lit evenly for that matter

mrreindeer
10-23-2008, 05:57 PM
There are probably an infinite number of ways to get a good light. Here is one. I toast the foot.. flame on or a little off of the tobacco. In between I blow on the glowing foot. Take no draws on the cigar during the process. Try to get the entire foot including the wrapper glowing. Usually its 2-3 toast and blow alternations to get a good even burn. After it is achieved wait a few seconds and start taking light draws on the cigar and recheck the evenness of the burn. If necessary torch and blow again.

Starting with light vs heavy draws on the cigar helps prevent an initial run and improves the burn for the entire cigar.

I toast the foot of the cigar evenly and then light it while drawing.

After the draw I breath through the cigar to expel any super hot smoke...thats my method at least, each his own.

:tpd::tpd::tpd:I'm mostly with Dave [Da Klugs] on this one with slight variation to include Mike's [ucla695] & Lou's? [bigloo] technique. I've got a single flame/torch Xikar combo...the EX [this one: http://www.xikar.com/product_lighter_ex.asp# ] and while I love how it looks and the Xikar warranty, I'm finding it's doing a so-so job at lighting. It could be me but it just takes too long. I'm thinking I might have to go with Volt's below or at least a double torch, although I know I'm not supposed to rush it.

Following Dave's method, I slowly rotate the cigar in my hand, toasting the foot with the flame. But I find that the results are often very uneven lighting. I'll toast and look and blow on the foot to get it glowing and repeat until I've mostly gotten it all glowing. If it's being stubborn or I'm being impatient (usually it's the latter as I, like Golfman, tend to drool in anticipation as I'm lighting. :dr:dr:dr), I'll torch & draw. When I say the cigar is stubborn, sometimes I've gotten it off to an uneven burn due to inefficient rotating or there's a plug right at the head or whatever, it's just not lighting the way it should be, evenly.

If I feel I've gotten it too hot or the breeze blows and gives me the urge, perhaps I might blow through it like bigloo.

In fact, give me a triple flame on high and stoke that puppy up.

So should I move on from the Xikar EX and get a double torch? If so, which one? I've heard trips (triple torches) take way too much gas....

Rockestone
10-23-2008, 05:58 PM
Spark it up and draw until the flame is about 2 inches high. Then blow it out.:D

mrreindeer
10-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Spark it up and draw until the flame is about 2 inches high. Then blow it out.:D


or there's that... :r:r:r:r:r:r

BlackIrish
10-23-2008, 06:36 PM
I've lit them pretty much every which way. Lately I've been using the method Klugs describes because I find a get a more even burn (can't seem to get it straight if I draw while lighting) and it burns less hot at the start.

BlackIrish

BC-Axeman
10-23-2008, 06:40 PM
Does anyone else use a propane torch and flame it 'till it's going, then smoke away?
That's how I do it when I'm in my garage.
Otherwise I toast a bit then light while drawing.

duckmanco
10-23-2008, 06:43 PM
I used to be a toast the foot all the way guy, but lately its been lightly toast, and then draw using the flame. I have begun to love that burst of flavor from drawing while lighting. It sort of lets me know where the cigar may be heading.

brigey57
10-23-2008, 07:02 PM
I will toast the foot until it is pretty charred and then take a draw or two to make sure that it is lit and it burning evenly.

So I guess I do both! :ss

Ditto.:tpd:

Aladdin Sane
10-23-2008, 07:10 PM
I toast when I can because I like the "ritual"

If I'm just driving down the road and want a smoke or can't find a torch I'm happy just lighting them up!

Guitarman-S.T-
10-23-2008, 07:16 PM
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again. :)

haha you the man Klugs :D

He's one bad Mutha...
SHUT YO MOUTH!
I'm just talking about the Klugs baby
KLUGS.... can ya dig it
:r:r

mrreindeer
10-23-2008, 07:21 PM
I used to be a toast the foot all the way guy, but lately its been lightly toast, and then draw using the flame. I have begun to love that burst of flavor from drawing while lighting. It sort of lets me know where the cigar may be heading.

Not to mention the fireworks! I dig that too.

I toast when I can because I like the "ritual"

:tpd: exactly what I was looking for in my earlier post - couldn't have said it better

G G
10-23-2008, 07:46 PM
Kinda go back and forth between the two methods. I don't do too many things the right way.:)

Ender
10-23-2008, 08:20 PM
I was wondering about that. I've watched friends toast and wondered "doesn't that just deposit a buch of carbon on the foot that you end up drawing into the cigar?" But then again maybe if you could toast to the point of comubstion then there would be no worry about the build up of carbon.

groogs
10-23-2008, 08:37 PM
I always toast the foot with a torch lighter, then I puff on the cigar with a soft flamb. I have found this is the best way to get an even burn on my cigars. I say light your cigars in any way that makes you happy.:ss

Ender
10-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Well yesterday I tried a relight by putting the flame into the foot without puffing. Once it was glowing I expelled a little before giving it a light draw. I found that really helped the cigar not get harsh. Anybody else try this?

BlackDog
10-27-2008, 02:27 PM
I use the Da Klugs method. That's how I was taught, and it's worked for me so I stick with it.

nozero
10-27-2008, 02:37 PM
Well yesterday I tried a relight by putting the flame into the foot without puffing. Once it was glowing I expelled a little before giving it a light draw. I found that really helped the cigar not get harsh. Anybody else try this?

When relighting, I always blow through the cigar before hand, then use the Da Klugs method again. I find blowing through first clears whatever it is that causes that relight nastyness. It works most of the time.

Python
10-27-2008, 04:18 PM
I also use the same method as Da Klugs. I don't start drawing on it until the foot is completely lit.

Rabidsquirrel
10-27-2008, 04:20 PM
I tried the toasting method the other day on a Perdomo Lot 23, and boy, the difference in taste was incredible.

jjirons69
10-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Sitting/talking = toasting
Riding/windy = light it straight on with torch

You do what it takes!