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JJG
09-20-2009, 10:33 AM
I'm disappointed. How common is this? I was smoking another one of these Adrian's cigars and I noticed when I wiped the wet end on a paper towel, it leaves a brown stain. I've never tried it before so maybe all cigars do this. I smoked a PAM64 later that night and it did the same thing. Do they use dyed wrappers too? :(

borndead1
09-20-2009, 10:45 AM
Don't worry, it's not shoe polish or anything. :D



Some cigar makers "enhance" their maduro wrappers. They use coffee, tea, or even a sort of "tobacco tea" made from boiling down stems and stalks and such.

icehog3
09-20-2009, 10:47 AM
As long as they don't start using pink dye. ;)

rudeJARHEAD
09-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Are you sure it is not tar? If a cigar is a little on the damp side I have been known to get a bitter tar residue on the cut end. There are manufacturers that artificialy color their maduro wrappers, but you can usually spot them by the overly dark wrappers.

JJG
09-20-2009, 10:53 AM
I did the wipe thing pretty much right after I lit them so I don't know if they would have time to build up tar residue. Anyhow, I'm not going to worry about it too much, but until now I thought only cheaper cigars had dyed wrappers.

borndead1
09-20-2009, 11:06 AM
I smoked a Padron 80th that stained my fingers, and a Fuente Anejo that stained my fingers, and smoked pitch black cheapazz bundle cigars that didn't stain my fingers.

As long as it's not paint, shoe polish, crude oil or whatever, I will continue to smoke an occasional Mr. Hanky Cigar. :ss

Red
09-20-2009, 11:38 AM
i know RP edge madruo is dyed...will turn your dang lips brown...GROSS....im not a maduro guy anyway..i need me some corojo

SmokinApe
09-20-2009, 12:19 PM
Do cigar makers dye candela cigars green?

bobarian
09-20-2009, 12:30 PM
Dying of maduro wrappers is not an indication of wrapper or cigar quality. Wrappers are dyed to provide consistency and usually used with a naturally fermented wrapper. Heat fermented wrappers are more consistent in color as they are cooked. Natural maduro fermentation can lead to inconsistency. Sometimes this results in blotchy wrappers or differences in color from one batch to another.

Staining on the end of a cigar is not an indication of dye. Dye would only show on the outside(wrapper). Staining on the end is usually a buildup of tar and can occur with any combination of wrapper, binder and filler, not just maduro's. :2

Usually recutting and a good purge can reduce the tarring of the end of your smoke. :tu

adampc22
09-20-2009, 12:32 PM
i hear thay use human blood muhahahahahahahahahaha

http://i34.tinypic.com/2vls9si.jpg

Red
09-20-2009, 02:40 PM
[QUOTE=adampc22;559210]i hear thay use human blood muhahahahahahahahahaha
/[QUOTE]

at least with human blood you know what your getting!

Ahbroody
09-20-2009, 03:35 PM
As long as they don't start using pink dye. ;)

Pink is the new black didnt you know?

bigloo
09-20-2009, 04:05 PM
Keep in mind tabacco had lots of natural oils. When you wet the wrapper these dissolve and the brown could be natural oil coming from the wrapper. Like someone pointed out, think about tea. Take wet tea leave and rub them on a cloth, they will stain.

Giant & 49er Fan
09-20-2009, 04:21 PM
i know RP edge madruo is dyed...will turn your dang lips brown...GROSS....im not a maduro guy anyway..i need me some corojo

Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.

TripleF
09-20-2009, 04:27 PM
Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.


I knew it was Mac's fault. :banger


I did just smoke an RP Edge Maduro and don't give a flip about dying or heat process, that's one dang tasty maduro!! :wo

kelmac07
09-20-2009, 04:29 PM
Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.

I knew it was Mac's fault. :banger

I did just smoke an RP Edge Maduro and don't give a flip about dying or heat process, that's one dang tasty maduro!! :wo

Did someone say MADUROS??? MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :tu :tu

JJG
09-20-2009, 04:36 PM
Dying of maduro wrappers is not an indication of wrapper or cigar quality.

well this was my main concern. I don't really smoke many maduros other than the PAMs anyway. I should clarify though it was the outside wrapper than I wiped off, not the end of the cigar where the tar would build up.

Aldebaran
09-20-2009, 07:12 PM
As far as I know Padron do no dye their cigars, maybe it was just the oils?

Starscream
09-20-2009, 07:57 PM
As far as I know Padron do no dye their cigars, maybe it was just the oils?

Especially the PAM 64. I hope they are not dyed.

Starscream
09-20-2009, 07:59 PM
Do cigar makers dye candela cigars green?

:hm
Interesting question. Candela wrappers come in many different shades of green.

Skywalker
09-20-2009, 08:26 PM
I'm voting Tar!!!

JJG
09-20-2009, 08:49 PM
As far as I know Padron do no dye their cigars, maybe it was just the oils?

this is possible, certainly. I noticed the PG gel in my singles tupperdor is turning yellow just from being near cigars. They obviously have the ability to stain things.

Catfish
09-20-2009, 08:52 PM
MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ Maduros. Are they 60RG?

Darrell
09-20-2009, 08:56 PM
i hear thay use human blood muhahahahahahahahahaha

http://i34.tinypic.com/2vls9si.jpg

That is a weak Count impression, he does not laugh like that. :r

Snake Hips
09-20-2009, 09:01 PM
Do cigar makers dye candela cigars green?Candela wrappers are never dyed. Only maduro.

Mr B
09-21-2009, 12:07 PM
i know RP edge madruo is dyed...will turn your dang lips brown...GROSS....im not a maduro guy anyway..i need me some corojo


I agree. Same w/ the ITC Maduros

The Poet
09-21-2009, 03:48 PM
I knew that some makers fake dark maduros by coloring the wrappers with certain organics - I've heard of molasses being used - but I am surprised a higher-end brand would use them. Naturally-fermented maduros may be a bit blotchy in appearance, yet that won't affect how they smoke, and if the consumer is aware of the reality it shouldn't affect sales either. My rule-of-thumb: if the wrapper is any darker than milk chocolate, be suspicious.

Giant & 49er Fan
09-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Heat NOT Dye... Heat! :r

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