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Mister Moo
09-03-2009, 07:30 AM
Clean start, two straight virginias, in dedicated cobs.

Comparing and contrasting GL Pease Union Square and Dan Hamborger Veermaster in cobs, briar and meer.

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Mister Moo
09-03-2009, 08:47 AM
HV: pipe conditioning is going to take a few days. First bowl ttasted like something between tobacco, corn and pine.

I cracked the seal, gave it some air and closed it up to sit overnight. The tobak out of the tin appears as conventional flake and feels ready to smoke on first glance; it rubs out easily and most of a flake fills a cob. The aroma from the tin is strong - not quite like any other VA that comes to mind.

DrDubzz
09-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Union Square

Blindjimme
09-03-2009, 12:45 PM
Dan,

Does the tin say Veermaster or Beermaster? Not trying to be funny, the first letter appears to be a stylized "B". Perhaps it's widely known that it's Veermaster, I'm not familiar. Heck, I thought the thread was going to be about coffee! Thanks :tu

Slow Triathlete
09-03-2009, 02:05 PM
To answer your question, I found this online in reference to this blend:

Regarding the name of this blend, which some people mistakenly think is 'Hamborger Beermaster' because of the typeface used on the tin; the ship on the front is a German four-masted windjammer, called a 'Veermaster'. This coupled with the fact that Dan Tobacco, the producer, lists this blend in their price lists as 'Hamborger Veermaster' is probably all that need to be said on this subject.

Blindjimme
09-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Perfect, thanks.

Mister Moo
09-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Hamborger Veermaster from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

´De Hamborger Veermaster´ (Standard German: ´Der Hamburger Viermaster´, English: Hamburg's four-master) is a famous sea shanty sung in Low German. It was written in 1849 and is partly in English and partly in Low German. It was and is still sometimes, in particular in Northern Germany, the historical geographical distribution of Low German, sung as a work song. This song is normally sung when sails are set and therefore it hardly will be heard in rural areas.

Ick heff mol een Hamborger Veermaster sehn,
|:To my hooday!:|De Masten so scheef as den Schipper sien Been,
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

I once saw a four-master from Hamburg.
|:To my hooday!:|
Her masts were as crooked as the skipper's legs.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

Refrain
|: Blow, boys, blow, for Californio,
There's plenty of gold, so I am told,
On the banks of Sacramento.:|
|: Blow, boys, blow, for Californio,
There's plenty of gold, so I am told,
On the banks of Sacramento.:|

Verse 2
Dat Deck weer vull Isen, vull Dreck un vull Smeer.
|:To my hooday!:|
„Rein Schipp“ weer den Oll'n sin scheunstes Pläseer.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

The deck was full of iron, dirt and grease.
|:To my hooday!:|
´Clean the ship´ was the captain's most beautiful joy.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

Verse 3
De Kombüs weer vull Lüüs, de Kajüt weer vull Schiet,
|:To my hooday!:||:To my hooday!:|
De Beschüten, de leupen von sülvens all wiet.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

The galley was full of louses, the cabin was full of ****.
|:To my hooday!:|
The biscuits walked away all by themselves.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

Verse 4
Dat Soltfleesch weer greun, un de Speck wör vull Modn.
|:To my hooday!:|
Un Köm geef dat blots an Wiehnachtsobend.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

The salted meat was green, the lard was full of maggots
|:To my hooday!:|
Snaps was only there at Christmas Eve.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

Verse 5
Un wulln wi mol seiln, ick sech ji dat nur,
|:To my hooday!:|
Denn lööp he dree vorut un veer wedder retur.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

And if we wanted to sail, I merely say,
|:To my hooday!:|
She moved three feet ahead and four back again.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

Verse 6
Un as dat Schipp, so weer ok de Kaptein,
|:To my hooday!:|
De Lüüd för dat Schipp, de weern ok blots schangheit.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

And like the ship, so the captain was,
|:To my hooday!:|
The men for the ship were all shanghaied.
To my hoo day, hoo day, ho - ho - ho - ho!

My favorite sea chanty is the classic "South Australia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vUqeDPZZ80)." Heave away now. Smoke yair peep later, mate.

Blindjimme
09-03-2009, 04:13 PM
Wow, thank you so much! I really enjoyed the verses and the South Australia video.

Hooday!!

Mister Moo
09-04-2009, 04:57 AM
Union SquareHave you smoked both enough to reply with a meatier opinion? Please flesh out your post if you can. Do you have a beef with DHV?

TheTraveler
09-04-2009, 06:53 AM
I've never smoked either but I'm looking forward to your side-by-side reviews. :tu

Subscribed.

DrDubzz
09-04-2009, 07:37 AM
Have you smoked both enough to reply with a meatier opinion? Please flesh out your post if you can. Do you have a beef with DHV?

I've not had HV, I was simply commenting on it being called Union Square, not Union Station :cool2:

Mister Moo
09-04-2009, 12:17 PM
I've not had HV, I was simply commenting on it being called Union Square, not Union Station :cool2:Dadgummit! Where's a mod when you need one! Thanks, RX. lol - seems like if someone was going to make an error in the title it'd involve Hamborger Veermaster, instead. :)

Have you smoked Union Square, by the way?

68TriShield
09-04-2009, 12:29 PM
Dadgummit! Where's a mod when you need one! Thanks, RX. lol - seems like if someone was going to make an error in the title it'd involve Hamborger Veermaster, instead. :)

Have you smoked Union Square, by the way?

right here Dan :)

Mister Moo
09-04-2009, 12:54 PM
right here Dan :)Mods. They're everywhere. :D

Slow Triathlete
09-08-2009, 10:15 AM
Moo,

Next time we get together for drinks I expect you to sing all 6 versus!!

Mister Moo
09-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Moo,

Next time we get together for drinks I expect you to sing all 6 versus!!Avast, mate... it takes me about one drink per verse. Or is that "perverse?"

Yo ho. Boat's on the hard but that doesn't stop rum.

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