How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)?

[Sean9689]

I sometime like to vent or do a little bragging after a session of poker. I thought it would be nice for others to share this common interest that so many of us do as a job or just for fun.

So, what game do you play? How did you fair at your recent session(s)? Where do you like to play? Any great donk plays or such that you'd like to tell us about?

I've been doing pretty decent over the past two months. I've had 5 winning sessions in a row ranging from 2 hours to 6 hours. I've been playing once a week or so at the new casino here in St. Louis, Lumiere Place. Not a huge room by any means but they have a good 1-3 NLHM game and a donkish 3-6 game if I feel like messing around. Every once in a while, they have a 2-5 NLHM game going that's pretty crazy as well (lots of good action but lots of bad beats as well).

I also host a home game once a month. We pick a good MNF game and get together. 1-2 NLHM and $100 minimum buy-in. Makes for a fun night with friends and you can sometimes come out a decent winner (or big loser). :tu

So, how are you doing at the tables?

[DavenportESQ]

Nice idea for a thread! We actually get together at least once a week and play! Last night we played a small tourney 5 player 1 cigar buy in. Went pretty well it was a little later than most of us wanted so we played 15 minute blinds! So much different when you play like that, a lot more gambling! We had fun and I believe Brad (cre8v1) took down Jordan of poker (tw3nty) heads up for the win.

[poker]

Good thread idea Sean! :tu


Personally, I been doing fair I guess. Not any big wins, but no major losses as of the last week. I play twice a week at a local casino here in Gardena. Usually play only Hold em 8/16 limit, 15/30 limit, and once in a while 100-300 buy-in NL. My sessions usually last between 4 to 5 hrs. Once in a while I'll play in tournaments, but I usually suck.

Last weekend was nice in that although I broke even for 2 days of play, Sunday they hit the jackpot for 15K at my table. Table share came out to about 755.00 per person, so that was a nice bonus for just sitting at the table. :D
Seat 2 (Q-Q) Seat 4 (Ac-5h big blind)
Flop A-A-2
Turn 4
River A

Seat 2 fell out of her chair :r

[JKim]

Ji loves him some Poker, most flavors.

Probably over the last year or so, I've been playing 1 or 2 nights a week with friends in a .25/.50 NL Holdem game. $20 buy-in, but it really plays like a 1/2 game. Can be pretty innocuous or can end up or down a couple of bills depending on which rascals are playing.

I play it like a donk game at times, play blind down to the river, because it's just fun sometimes.

I used to play alot of 5/10 limit hold'em, dealer's choice mixed rotation around town about 4 or 5 years ago. Some of these games could be pretty painful, some pots hitting the $1000 mark in the dealer's choice rotation playing 5/10. I've had good and bad nights.

The home games spread like wild fire in 03-04 which drew alot of attention. I stopped hitting regular rotation games when several were robbed and raided by GBI.

I hear time to time of some 1/2 games around town, but the rakes are outrageous. I'd rather not play.

The closest Casinos with a regular game are Biloxi and Tunica. I prefer the action at Tunica but probably just make it out there once a year or so now. It's been 5 years since I've been to Vegas.

I had a good run in Tunica back in August. Chopped top 2 in a $60/rebuy tournament, probably about 40 players.

Had maybe 1 or 2 losing sessions at the tables, but didn't amount to much, maybe $40/session, but had some nice winning sessions as well.

One of my most memorable is playing in Amsterdam and Salzburg while on Vacation in 2007. I ended up at a 5-5 NL table with Marcel Luske at the Holland Casino. A gentleman player and a cut up. I enjoyed that session although he drew out on the river to hit a flush on my first buy-in. I ended leaving that session a winner, but not too much.

I played at the Casino Salzburg one night. That game was cake! Easy to get reads on most of the players. Deep pockets on card players that did not mind losing. :]

Hold'em is what I play the most, but I enjoy Razz, Omaha, Stud/8, Paducah, triple draw. Don't care much for pineapple. Crazy dealer's choice games I enjoy from time to time.

I just love cards.

[cigars_n_scotch]

Very good thread idea. I don't play as much as I'd like, I never really got into poker until about 2-3 yrs. ago. The problem is, I don't have many friends who play poker frequently or enjoy it as much as a group of friends I have. Problem is they are 45 minutes away and it's a long haul down there, especially late at night coming home after we've played for a few hours.

My problem with seriously playing poker is I'm not able to process all of the hands and odds like a lot of people, but again perhaps that just comes with experience. I typically just have a few beers, play some hands and if I do well then that's great, if I lose than it's no big deal. We usually only play $20 buy-ins when just messing around so it's no big deal.

I wish I had a few buddies who enjoyed poker AND cigars! :tu Those guys all smoke cigarettes :(:cb

Do you all play online here for CA? Where do you play and what are the games?

[JKim]

Recollection from a recent game.. a few weekends ago.

I hit 2 straight flushes within half an hour in that .25/.50 game.

Holding Ad Jd
Flop Qd 10d blank
Turn Kd
River another diamond.

I did not get paid on that hand. I think someone made a small stab at it on the the river, but released when I put in a value raise.

Within the next round or so I'm holding Js 10s

Flop 7s 8s 9s
turn blank
river 7?

2 players in the hand. I'm first to act.
Flop checked around.
Turn, I bet $5. I get raised to $20. Cha-ching! I smooth call
River, I bet $30. Guy in the hand has caught me stealing on many occasions. This is one of those times he decided. He called me down with middle pair.

Sometimes it pays to bluff :]

I can probably count all the times I'd hit a straight flush on one hand. To hit 2 in the same session. I be one lucky Asian.

[fxpose]

Frank and Art took my money the last time we played. I intend to win that money back, and some more, hopefually this weekend.
Are you in, Mike? I'm grilling some wings & burgers....:D

[Sean9689]

Probably going to try and get out of work early and play a little bit. If I can get out early enough, I may try and play the noon tourney and then some 1-3 NLHM afterwards.

[white_s2k]

I don't play much anymore, but can't wait to get a poker room started here at CA! :bx

[Sean9689]

Took off work a bit early and decided to play in a $35 tourney at the local casino. Blinds got up to 300-600 with 12 guys left and with 3500, folded all the way to me and I went all-in with A5 on the button while the BB managed to pick up AA. GG me...game over. (Top 6 were paid)

[JKim]

Hate it when that happens Sean, when you get down to crunch time and you see everyone else making moves, not getting called. LOL

Reminds me of the 2nd Tournament I played in Tunica a few months back. Started the final table with a respectable chip count, 1st or 2nd stacked. I went card dead when people started making moves.

A few rounds went by, a few stabs here and there and I ran into over the top all ins. One guy was down to his last and had survived 2 double ups.

It's getting close to that time where my only move is all-in pre-flop. Finally see some wired 10s. I make my move, and low and behold the guy that surived 2 all-ins is sittin on wired Jacks. DOH. oh well.

That's tournament poker!

[JohnnyFlake]

This is an interesting thread. It was a great idea!

Since I now live in Henderson, Nevada a suburb of Las Vegas, I have many casinos to play poker in. However, I probably play 90% of the time at either the Green Valley Range Casino or the South Point Casino. Most of the time I play $2/$4 Texas Holdem, however, when they get one started, I also play $3/$6 Holdem, which I prefer. On a rare occasion I'll play $4/$8, however, when I have enough to play $4/$8 I prefer to get into a $1/$2 No Limit Game. The $1/$2 No Limit requires a minimum $100 buy-in with a maximum buy-in of $300. You can re-buy at the table, anytime your stack is under $100, prior to the next hand.

On average I play two secessions a week, 3 to 5 hours each.

Of late, I have been having a bad run, barely playing even, and losing more often than not! To show you how bad my lucks been running, I decided to play in a $1/$2 No Limit Game, last week, hoping to change my bad streak. I bought in for $200 and on the very first hand, I was dealt pocket rockets the Club & Spade. To make a long story short, prior to the flop, I was forced to go all in. There were three of us left. The flop comes 5, 10, jack of hearts. The other two players still had money in front of them so there was a surprising low $100 bet made. Of course it was called. The turn was the 2 of hearts and both of the other players checked. The river, I believe was the 3 of clubs. One of the other players had about $200 left and went all-in, the other had a little more than $200 left and called. The show down, left me with two aces. One of the other players showed a pair of Kings, both red for a King high heart flush, and the other, showed a pair of aces, both red with an ace high heart flush!!! WTF!

[JKim]

johnny that is a very strange hand to be caught in the middle of. Unfortunate you couldn't have had the 2 red aces. I cut my teeth playing local 4/8 limit games in Atlanta.

On the flip side of your hand one of the strangest I won was capped raising pre flop with about 5 people in on the flop. Capped on the flop. Turn checked around on the turn. River first to act bets two players after him fold. I've got 10 high. I tell the person who bets that I've got 10 high and am going to call him. I can't let $150 go against an $8 call. I make the call. Patrick looks at me shakes head and says "you're good."

At least one guy that folded hit the board but didn't think their hand was any good. Normally I wouldn't have played my junk, but like I said I was cuttin my teeth. By far one of the most bizarre hands that I can recall.

Poker players they be crazy.

I was at the horseshoe in tunica probably in 04 playing on a 10/20 table when there was a lot of commotion. Fuggin Scottie nguyen is playing the 20/40 Omaha/8 blind. Raising every bet down to the river blind. He's having a good time as sure as everyone else at the table with anything playable. He quickly burned through a few grand then asked the dealer to spot him 5 grand. The casino host standing next to Scottie gave his nod. Scottie then proceeded to burn through this stack laughing and cutting up the whole time. I think I was playing the wrong game that night.

[jaycarla]

I don't play much anymore, but can't wait to get a poker room started here at CA! :bx

Please oh please! I was loving the poker for sticks deal. Had a great group.

That was my extent of cards though, no chance for a while to get on a real table.

[JohnnyFlake]

johnny that is a very strange hand to be caught in the middle of. Unfortunate you couldn't have had the 2 red aces.

Your not kidding, and it was my very first hand. I still had a$100 left, as I always take $300 or more when I'm going to play the $1/$2 No Limit, but I always buy in for $200. However, I was so flustered that I got up and left, playing only one hand in that secession. That is the first time something like that has ever happened to me!

I played some $2/$4 this past Tuesday for about two hours, at a new casino that my wife and I decide to go see (The East Side Cannery) and ended up winning $68. No big thing but it did help with my moral.

[JKim]

Your not kidding, and it was my very first hand. I still had a$100 left, as I always take $300 or more when I'm going to play the $1/$2 No Limit, but I always buy in for $200. However, I was so flustered that I got up and left, playing only one hand in that secession. That is the first time something like that has ever happened to me!

I played some $2/$4 this past Tuesday for about two hours, at a new casino that my wife and I decide to go see (The East Side Cannery) and ended up winning $68. No big thing but it did help with my moral.

And that my friend is one of the hardest lessons I've learned at the tables. If you can't shake off a beat at the table, get up and take a break.

WTG on the win at the new Casino. A win is a win.

[JKim]

Played some 1/2 Dealer's Choice last night. Scooped a couple Omaha Pots, caught caught a few times stealing in Hold'em. Made the right decision to declare high in a high-low split game when I had nuthin good.

Good times...

[Prozac_Puros]

Playing in a $2-$4 Limit Ring Game online a few week ago, I was watching a table play and it's average pot. It seemed like over 1/2 the hands hands were raised pre flop. I sat in and got this my first hand

Seat 1: JMAN45 ($34 in chips)
Seat 2: moshe boy ($30 in chips)
Seat 3: chadwic007 ($94 in chips)
Seat 4: styledog ($170 in chips)
Seat 6: jcool78 ($59 in chips)
Seat 8: golf_god69 [ 7S,2C ] ($200 in chips)
Seat 9: reds33 ($30 in chips)
Seat 10: yaumang ($172 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
jcool78 posts blind ($1), golf_god69 posts blind ($2).

PRE-FLOP
reds33 folds, yaumang calls $2, JMAN45 folds, moshe boy folds, chadwic007 folds, styledog calls $2, jcool78 calls $1, golf_god69 checks.

FLOP [board cards KD,9D,KC ]
jcool78 checks, golf_god69 checks, yaumang checks, styledog checks.

TURN [board cards KD,9D,KC,2S ]
jcool78 checks, golf_god69 checks, yaumang checks, styledog checks.

RIVER [board cards KD,9D,KC,2S,10D ]
jcool78 checks, golf_god69 checks, yaumang checks, styledog checks.

SHOWDOWN
jcool78 shows [ QH,5D ]
golf_god69 shows [ 7S,2C ]
yaumang mucks cards [ 8H,AS ]
styledog mucks cards [ AC,QD ]
golf_god69 wins $8.

SUMMARY
Dealer: styledog
Pot: $8 | Rake: $0
JMAN45 loses $0
moshe boy loses $0
chadwic007 loses $0
styledog loses $2
jcool78 loses $2
golf_god69 bets $2, collects $8, net $6
reds33 loses $0
yaumang loses $2


So much for a live table...

[ucla695]

Frank and Art took my money the last time we played. I intend to win that money back, and some more, hopefually this weekend.
Are you in, Mike? I'm grilling some wings & burgers....:D

Poker was fun last night. Good times and no one lost their shirt. :ss

[JKim]

gonna try my luck at some 1/2 PL Omaha hi/low tonight. should be interesting.

[JohnnyFlake]

gonna try my luck at some 1/2 PL Omaha hi/low tonight. should be interesting.

Good Luck!!!

That's a very, very, tough game!

[JKim]

yeah... things I picked up about omaha.. assume someone's got the nuts...
count your outs on the turn, get your money in (more so PL High only)
Don't push hard 3 players or less with just the nut low.. you'll lose some money.
Starters are much more important than Hold'em.

Sweeping pots is nice.
Getting caught with 2nd best on both ends sucks.
The swings are much larger for me....

What am I missing? LOL

[JKim]

Omaha went well tonight. Finished a winner. Hit quad 10s twice. Got paid on a hand set over set. I'm pleased.

[JKim]

Had another good session last night playing 1/2. Been on a good run. Flopped a set of 10's, got someone to bite. 25 on the flop, 50 on the turn, just about bit for 120 on the river. He was just about convinced I missed a flush a draw, but he folded his bottom pair.

He didn't want to believe me when I told him I flopped a set later that night.

Bought in for 100, worked it up to 500 when someone else sat at the table with 600. Game on. He was playing pretty loose. Didn't get to take much of his chips, maybe one 80 pot, flopped middle pair and flush draw, turned trips. He was betting all the way through. Gave him a value raise on the river he called with top pair.

[poker]

Played my hand correctly last Sunday but blew it overall in a 8/16 game.

A-7 off suit (I dumped the hand preflop)

2 players left

Flop comes A-A-6

Both players check

Turn was the case Ace

Bet & called by 2 remaining players

River rainbow deuce

Bet with no call. Winner exposed her hand. J-J

By throwing my hand away, I gave up 50% of the Jackpot.

:c

(and no I never said a word) LOL

[BigAl_SC]

Played my hand correctly last Sunday but blew it overall in a 8/16 game.

A-7 off suit (I dumped the hand preflop)

(and no I never said a word) LOL

ouch!!!! but it was the right thing to do.

Hit one in Biloxi for 6k last year.

First hand, JJ. on a 1/2 nl (100-300 buy in, I'm in for 2)

Flop JJx, I check, one bet for 10, I call

Turn A, I check, other player checks.

River is a blank, I pot bet for 40, other guy ($500 stack) goes all in with Aces full. I instacall.

Guy is cussing till the other players tell him he just won $12k.

[JohnnyFlake]

Played my hand correctly last Sunday but blew it overall in a 8/16 game.

A-7 off suit (I dumped the hand preflop)

2 players left

Flop comes A-A-6

Both players check

Turn was the case Ace

Bet & called by 2 remaining players

River rainbow deuce

Bet with no call. Winner exposed her hand. J-J

By throwing my hand away, I gave up 50% of the Jackpot.

:c

(and no I never said a word) LOL

I'm a little confused! I assume that you are referring to a bad beat of some kind. If that's the case, every bad beat, that I have ever seen, requires that both cards in your hand must play. You would have had 4 Aces, however, only one card in your hand would play!

[JKim]

Kelly... that story my friend makes you want to play bad poker! LOL. I'm sure that was doh moment. Sorry to hear the session didn't go so well. I hope you didn't have your mind set on that Bad Beat jackpot.

Johnny, both of kelly's cards would have played on the board A A A 6 2. His 7 is the kicker for quad A's.

[JohnnyFlake]

Kelly... that story my friend makes you want to play bad poker! LOL. I'm sure that was doh moment. Sorry to hear the session didn't go so well. I hope you didn't have your mind set on that Bad Beat jackpot.

Johnny, both of kelly's cards would have played on the board A A A 6 2. His 7 is the kicker for quad A's.

No! That's not the way it works in any casino I've ever played in, and I've been playing in them for over 40 years. Both cards must play, and not as a kicker! With 4 of a kind, you must have two of them in your hand! With any five card hand, it's obvious that both cards in your hand must be part of the actual winning hand.

[JKim]

Johnny, that's interesting.....

so with this board A A A 6 2 and A 7 as your hole cards, what 5 cards play to make the best hand?

[poker]

No! That's not the way it works in any casino I've ever played in, and I've been playing in them for over 40 years. Both cards must play, and not as a kicker! With 4 of a kind, you must have two of them in your hand! With any five card hand, it's obvious that both cards in your hand must be part of the actual winning hand.

Actually it is the way its played. In Gardena CA casinos anyways.

The quads would constitute 4 cards and the 7 (since it's higher than any other card on the board not already being played) becomes the kicker.
So, in actuality, both hole cards are playing for the 5 card hand.

Now I know every casino sets their own rules, but in Southern CA many card casinos have that ruling.

[JohnnyFlake]

Johnny, that's interesting.....

so with this board A A A 6 2 and A 7 as your hole cards, what 5 cards play to make the best hand?

The four Aces and the seven are the best five, however, the Bad Beat Rules, in all casinos in Nevada, clearly state, that with four of a kind, the two hole cards must be a part of the 4 of a kind! Check with any casino that offers a bad beat Jack Pot, or even High Hand Jackpots.

[JohnnyFlake]

Actually it is the way its played. In Gardena CA casinos anyways.

The quads would constitute 4 cards and the 7 (since it's higher than any other card on the board not already being played) becomes the kicker.
So, in actuality, both hole cards are playing for the 5 card hand.

Now I know every casino sets their own rules, but in Southern CA many card casinos have that ruling.

If you say that's the way it is in CA., I cannot dispute that. The last time I played in a Poker Room in CA., was over 15 years ago, and there were no bad beat or high hand jackpots back then.

[poker]

http://www.hustlercasinola.com/a/flyer/50kprogressive.pdf

[JohnnyFlake]

http://www.hustlercasinola.com/a/flyer/50kprogressive.pdf

I called them to ask how their rule actually applied. I was told, that in their Casino, in the case of four of a kind, there can be three parts of the four of a kind on the table. For example, in their casino, there can be 3 Tens on the table and lets' say a nine and a jack. If your hole cards were a ten and either a jack, queen or king, you would have a valid hand. Your kicker must either tie or beat the other kickers on the table. In all other California Casinos the kicker in your hand must beat all other kickers on the table.

The person I was talking to said that they were the only ones who allowed a tie with the highest kicker to count as a winning hand. He also said that in Nevada, the rules were completely different. He agreed that both of the whole cards must be used to make up the four of a kind.

I learned something today!!!

[poker]

The Normandie casino in Gardena is also like that ($15K JP). They do however have a larger jackpot ($40K) if quads are beat by quads and both players have pocket pairs. Hit it during certain hours and it doubles.

This is my usual haunting grounds

http://www.normandiecasino.com/Tournaments.aspx?Imgfile=TXS-HLDM-PROG-JPT.jpg

[JohnnyFlake]

My post #35 above has troubled me for several hours now. Something about it does not make any sense to me, so I called them again, and I was again explained the same exact ruling on how their rule about the hole cards apply. So, what I explained above #35 is correct, based on their rules.

However, it makes no sense to me, and here is why. Using the example that I was given, 3 tens, a nine and a jack are on the table. Your holding the 4th ten and another card. According to their rules, the other card must be a jack, queen, king or ace for your hand to count. Their rule, as defined by them, states that your kicker must be equal to or higher than any other cards on the table, beside the 3 tens. In other words, your kicker must tie or beat the other kickers on the table for your hand to be considered a winning hand. That makes no sense, as you have 4 tens. No one else has four tens, therefore the kicker is irrelevant. It should make no difference what your kicker is, even a duce should be good. Kickers, by all poker rules, only come into play to break two or more hands that tie, and sometimes kickers will also tie and the pot is split. With any four of a kind hand, there can be no ties. Who ever has four of a kind, can never be tied with an equal hand. As a result the kicker is irrelevant!

[ToddziLLa]

My brother in law has in the past 6 weeks or so won...

$10k online
$23k real life tourney
$5k online
$10k online
$17.5k online

[poker]

My post #35 above has troubled me for several hours now. Something about it does not make any sense to me, so I called them again, and I was again explained the same exact ruling on how their rule about the hole cards apply. So, what I explained above #35 is correct, based on their rules.

However, it makes no sense to me, and here is why. Using the example that I was given, 3 tens, a nine and a jack are on the table. Your holding the 4th ten and another card. According to their rules, the other card must be a jack, queen, king or ace for your hand to count. Their rule, as defined by them, states that your kicker must be equal to or higher than any other cards on the table, beside the 3 tens. In other words, your kicker must tie or beat the other kickers on the table for your hand to be considered a winning hand. That makes no sense, as you have 4 tens. No one else has four tens, therefore the kicker is irrelevant. It should make no difference what your kicker is, even a duce should be good. Kickers, by all poker rules, only come into play to break two or more hands that tie, and sometimes kickers will also tie and the pot is split. With any four of a kind hand, there can be no ties. Who ever has four of a kind, can never be tied with an equal hand. As a result the kicker is irrelevant!




Well all I can tell you is what I know. A poker hand in Hold Em consists of a 5 card hand, not 4. So the kicker does apply. If given the example you posted

10-10-9-J-10

And you have A-10, the Ace kicker counts as the 5th card to complete your hand.
If for example you instead had 8-10 in the hole, you have quads but the "J" on the board out ranks your 8, so therefore you do in fact have quads but you are not using both your hole cards, only the 10.

The key being that both players must have both hole cards contribute to make up a 5 card hand to qualify for bad beat JP.

[JohnnyFlake]

Well all I can tell you is what I know. A poker hand in Hold Em consists of a 5 card hand, not 4. So the kicker does apply. If given the example you posted

10-10-9-J-10

And you have A-10, the Ace kicker counts as the 5th card to complete your hand.
If for example you instead had 8-10 in the hole, you have quads but the "J" on the board out ranks your 8, so therefore you do in fact have quads but you are not using both your hole cards, only the 10.

The key being that both players must have both hole cards contribute to make up a 5 card hand to qualify for bad beat JP.

Poker,

You have missed my point completely! Yes, the kicker in your hand must play, making a five card hand, however, the value/rank of the kicker in your hand is irrelevant, as your four tens is the winning hand, no matter what the value of the kicker is. There is no other hand that can tie the four tens, so the value of the kicker, in your hand, should be irrelevant.

[poker]

I see what you are trying to say, but I dont think I can explain the kicker rule in place at these 2 casinos any easier for it to make more sense.

[Ollie]

Because everyone loves a bad beat story :rolleyes:...

Seat 2: Villain (3995 in chips)
Seat 7: SB (4260 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (5245 in chips)
SB: posts small blind 100
HERO: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Js Jc]
Villain: calls 200
SB: calls 100
HERO: raises 600 to 800
Villain: raises 600 to 1400
SB: folds
HERO: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [6c Jh 5c]
HERO: checks
Villain: bets 1000
HERO: raises 2845 to 3845 and is all-in
Villain: calls 1595 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1250) returned to Quint45
*** TURN *** [6c Jh 5c] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Jh 5c 4s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO: shows [Js Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Villain: shows [Kh Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
Villain collected 8190 from pot

[white_s2k]

Because everyone loves a bad beat story :rolleyes:...

Seat 2: Villain (3995 in chips)
Seat 7: SB (4260 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (5245 in chips)
SB: posts small blind 100
HERO: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Js Jc]
Villain: calls 200
SB: calls 100
HERO: raises 600 to 800
Villain: raises 600 to 1400
SB: folds
HERO: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [6c Jh 5c]
HERO: checks
Villain: bets 1000
HERO: raises 2845 to 3845 and is all-in
Villain: calls 1595 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1250) returned to Quint45
*** TURN *** [6c Jh 5c] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Jh 5c 4s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO: shows [Js Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Villain: shows [Kh Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
Villain collected 8190 from pot

Wowwww... that's bad man. I would have done the same thing though.

[JKim]

Played some 1/2 PL Omaha/8, PL Omaha, and 2/4 Stud/8 last night in rotation. It was a nice change of pace. Stole some with pot sized bets on the turn and river. Scooped a few Stud/8 pots. It was fun.

[KASR]

I have a home game every Saturday and Sunday night (anyone in Oklahoma is welcome to play) - I take away with more than I came over 85% of the time...and we've been playing for about 2-3 years now.
Dealers choice of several fun games...last weekend I was up 400% on Saturday and 50% on Sunday. :D

[poker]

Just got back from an unusually long session for me (4am-11am) of 8/16. Did alright and cashed out way more than my buy in. No special stories really, the cards just happened to fall in my favor today :ss

[JKim]

Very nice Kelly.. It's always a little surreal to play through the night and leave when the sun is blazing.

I'm heading to Tunica this weekend for some action Fri-Mon. Pray to the Poker gods for me. Maybe I'm in their favor. :]

[Heliofire]

I just started playing at full tilt poker and i was up earlier today but after a little losing streak I said that's enough for right now.

[JKim]

Last night's 4.5 hour session started dreary, lost half my buy-in in the first half hour. I hunkered down, made some good continuation bets and timed raises. Got most of my hands paid off when I had the best of it. Cashed out 7x my buy-in. wooot Tunica here I come.

[poker]

Last night's 4.5 hour session started dreary, lost half my buy-in in the first half hour. I hunkered down, made some good continuation bets and timed raises. Got most of my hands paid off when I had the best of it. Cashed out 7x my buy-in. wooot Tunica here I come.

Nice! :tu:tu

[JKim]

I seem to be on a dry spell. I can't seem to get anything together. Didn't have much luck in Tunica a few weekends ago. Although I finished up ahead overall for the trip, I was disappointed by my play at the 1/2 NL tables.

Got beat of a pot last night playing a home game. I've got QQ middle position raised to 15. BB (tight player called)

Flop Q 8 rag. He checks, I bet 15 knowing he's got something good. He smooth calls.

Turn A - He checks, I bet 25, he raises to 50. He'd been check-raising me all night catching me when I'm trying to steal the pot. I figure I've got him this time.

River 8 - He comes out firing 30 which I expected. No way he can check the River. I raise to 90. He considers and stalls, then goes all in for about 120 on top of his original 30.

I felt the pain before I even had to look at his cards. Of course I called, he turned over pocket A's. Interesting he smooth called pre-flop and the flop. I couldn't make anything else happen after that really.

Lost my last hand of the night with JJ against the same guy. He had Ac Kc. Flop 10c 7c 7r. Of course I couldn't get him off his hand after the flop. He caught his K on the turn.

[Silound]

I play a local weekly tournament here at the shop, usually $20 NLH games, final two split 50/50.


Up about $1,000 this year. Hit a lucky month walking in with 40, walking out with over 200.

[JKim]

Here is the Scenario......

Let's say you're under the gun at a 1/2 NL Hold'em table. You've stepped away from the table for second, dealer asks what you would like to do. You say call blind. Middle position and late position limp in... You get back to the table and find you're holding Js 3s

Flop is Ks 8s 2s

You check. Middle position bet's 8, button calls, you call.

Turn is a blank

You check again, Middle position bet's 15, button calls, you call.

River is a blank

You come out firing 40, middle position folds, button without much thought raises to 140.

What do you do?

After the look of surprise in your face...... Button shows you the 7s....

You try and get a read off of button with some banter... What do you do?

[JohnnyFlake]

Here is the Scenario......

Let's say you're under the gun at a 1/2 NL Hold'em table. You've stepped away from the table for second, dealer asks what you would like to do. You say call blind. Middle position and late position limp in... You get back to the table and find you're holding Js 3s

Flop is Ks 8s 2s

You check. Middle position bet's 8, button calls, you call.

Turn is a blank

You check again, Middle position bet's 15, button calls, you call.

River is a blank

You come out firing 40, middle position folds, button without much thought raises to 140.

What do you do?

After the look of surprise in your face...... Button shows you the 7s....

You try and get a read off of button with some banter... What do you do?

You be foolish to raise at that point! Your only option, IMHO, is to call. He may be slow playing the nut flush!

[BigAl_SC]

You be foolish to raise at that point! Your only option, IMHO, is to call. He may be slow playing the nut flush!

I agree you can't walk away. with out playing with them, they could be:
pushing you out of a missed draw; pushing with trips, 2 pair, or his own missed draw; or he's got you crushed with the nuts.

call and either you win(70%) or lose(30%).

[JKim]

So the money is right for you to call at a little better than 2 to 1 if the 70/30 percentage is right. Anyone think that you should fold in that position. Keep in mind this is a cash game, no tournament survival at stake here.

[BigAl_SC]

So the money is right for you to call at a little better than 2 to 1 if the 70/30 percentage is right. Anyone think that you should fold in that position. Keep in mind this is a cash game, no tournament survival at stake here.

The 70/30 is a guess without knowing the players and a 1/2 game. Knowledge of them or higher stakes would change that.

[JKim]

Your right about the stakes and the players. Even if you're a 34% dog in the hand the money is still right to call.

At any rate I'm the one on the button. J3 saves himself 80 bucks (all he had in front of him) and mucks his hand. I was pretty surprised because I've made the same move on bluffs medium strength and strong hands and been called in each scenario. I had Qs 7s.

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On to the next scenario, button limps, SB with Ac Qh raises to 10, BB calls.

Flop Ah 8h 3h

In the small blind you bet 15. BB calls button folds.

Turn. 10h

2nd nut out of position you check. BB bets 25, what's your next move?

[BigAl_SC]

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On to the next scenario, button limps, SB with Ac Qh raises to 10, BB calls.

Flop Ah 8h 3h

In the small blind you bet 15. BB calls button folds.

Turn. 10h

2nd nut out of position you check. BB bets 25, what's your next move?


25 into a 60 pot is probably a feeler bet. raise to 75 and either take it down or BB comes over the top all-in. either way you get the info without putting it all in.

[JKim]

Hey Big Al.. I meant to preface.. After the turn.. SB was sitting on about 150, BB had about 325. Same action?

[BigAl_SC]

Hey Big Al.. I meant to preface.. After the turn.. SB was sitting on about 150, BB had about 325. Same action?

Probably..... Any smaller and you get no info. There is an argument that if your putting half your stack in, you might as well make it all. If its a loose player this might be the right choice.......

[JKim]

SB pushes all-in, BB calls immediately....

I had A Kh :]

[JKim]

Probably..... Any smaller and you get no info. There is an argument that if your putting half your stack in, you might as well make it all. If its a loose player this might be the right choice.......

If I were in the SB position, I'd have to consider the next move. If I commit half my stack and get called or raised, can I walk away from the hand then?

What would I do on the River if smooth called on the turn. I don't know that the outcome of the chips would have turned out differently unless you could walk away either on the turn or river.

[BigAl_SC]

If I were in the SB position, I'd have to consider the next move. If I commit half my stack and get called or raised, can I walk away from the hand then?

What would I do on the River if smooth called on the turn. I don't know that the outcome of the chips would have turned out differently unless you could walk away either on the turn or river.

Correct. The 75 bet only works and saves you money is you listen to the reason you made it. A smooth call or raise and you have to muck when ever BB puts the rest in. And that has to be on your read of the player.

[JKim]

Brain Teaser..

Playing Omaha High with starters 3d 3h 3s 9s (not that you'd get mixed up in a pot with these starters), what are at leasts 3 ways to make the nuts? There may be more, but I only know of 3.

[Ollie]

Brain Teaser..

Playing Omaha High with starters 3d 3h 3s 9s (not that you'd get mixed up in a pot with these starters), what are at leasts 3 ways to make the nuts? There may be more, but I only know of 3.

Good one. I won't post the answer since i cheated. All I could come up with on my own was quad 9's.

Omahahahaha....

[JKim]

It is interesting Ollie. :]

9 9 9 x x (for quad nines)

2 2 2 2 3 (for nut boat)

As Ks Qs Js 10s (for nut flush)