Habana or Havana

[crase21]

I am 18 and I've never understood the difference between "havana" and "habana". Why does some of my non-cubans say "havana" on the rapper and my cubans say "habana"? What is the difference?

[Emjaysmash]

I suppose its the Spanish and English spelling...?

[RGD.]

what is the diiference between "habana" and "havana"? How does one know the difference? How to tell?

Ummm - I pretty sure its:

Habana = Spanish Spelling
Havana = English Spelling



Ron

[NCRadioMan]

I suppose its the Spanish and English spelling...?
Yep. Same word, same meaning, same city. :D

Most non-cubans are from cuban seed and they want to capitalize on the word Havana (english) because everybody knows the mystique of cuban cigars, novice or not.

Cubans have "havana" (spanish) because that is what they are, I guess.

[crase21]

but the non cubans are not from cuba. so why is it in english?

[NCRadioMan]

but the non cubans are not from cuba. so why is it in english?

The tobacco is from cuban seed and they are primarily for the English (American) market. The rest of the world doesn't have that many non-cubans to choose from. The rest of the world smokes, primarily, cuban cigars. We are special. :rolleyes:

[crase21]

but the non cubans are not from cuba. so why is it in english?

[Emjaysmash]

Welcome, BTW...

[NCRadioMan]

but the non cubans are not from cuba. so why is it in english?
For the second time, they are for the American market and we speak english. For the most part. :D

[dvickery]

crase21

to put it a different way but repeat what everyone else has said...

in italian...roma
in canadian...rome


in spanish...habana
in canadian...havana

you really dont need to stress over it...just accept that other languages spell things different than we do.

derrek :hm

[crase21]

I have a lot of non Cuban cigars. A lot of those non Cuban cigars have "Havana" written on the wrapper. I'm not sure why they have the word "Havana" written there. These cigars were not made in Cuba and I don't know of another city called Habana or Havana; other than Havana, Cuba. Why are non Cuban cigars released with the word "Havana" on the wrapper?

Thank you in advance for all of your help.

[Col. Kurtz]

I have a lot of non Cuban cigars. A lot of those non Cuban cigars have "Havana" written on the wrapper. I'm not sure why they have the word "Havana" written there. These cigars were not made in Cuba and I don't know of another city called Habana or Havana; other than Havana, Cuba. Why are non Cuban cigars released with the word "Havana" on the wrapper?

Thank you in advance for all of your help.

Marketing

[NCRadioMan]

The tobacco that is used is grown from cuban seed and they want to capitalize on the word Havana (english) because everybody knows the mystique of cuban cigars, novice or not.

[Norcal_aaron]

Yep. Same word, same meaning, same city. :D

Most non-cubans are from cuban seed and they want to capitalize on the word Havana (english) because everybody knows the mystique of cuban cigars, novice or not.

Cubans have "havana" (spanish) because that is what they are, I guess.

The tobacco is from cuban seed and they are primarily for the English (American) market. The rest of the world doesn't have that many non-cubans to choose from. The rest of the world smokes, primarily, cuban cigars. We are special. :rolleyes:

That pretty much explains it. Its all about marketing my friend.

[icehog3]

We good here? :r

[Genetic Defect]

but why?

[mikeyj23]

We good here? :r

havana on or off?

[Commander Quan]

because when you smoke one your "Havana good time"

[GHC_Hambone]

You say potato, I say potato....wait that doesn't really work when you type it out

[Emjaysmash]

You say potato, I say potato....wait that doesn't really work when you type it out

:r:r:r

[icehog3]

You say potato, I say potato....wait that doesn't really work when you type it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoXo64dGh9c

[Mark]

Welcome to the Asylum, Crase. Why don't you head over to the New Inmate Processing Area and post an introduction so we can get to know you a bit, and check out the newbie PIF. Its good to have you here, brother.

[theonlybear4CORT]

From your avatar you look like Stewart
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Stuart-and-Mama-mad-tv-312427_265_198.jpg



ok back to the topic at hand.

[Bax]

OK, one more time from the top. :D

[Adriftpanda]

Hahaha Mike you're a jerk! Hahaha wow I miss those skits!

[aerochris]

Hey guys. Crase21 is my brother. He is staying with me this summer but will soon be back in Missouri to finish up his last year of high school.

The other day he asked me why some of his cigars had the word "Havana" written on them even though they weren't from Cuba. I didn't know the answer and suggested he post up on the Asylum.

Sorry for the double post up there. We were having wireless internet problems last night and it must have posted twice on accident. I didn't even know that had happened until I saw the thread this morning.

Crase21 is a very good BOTL and I am sure he will be a great addition to the Asylum.

[Emjaysmash]

Hey guys. Crase21 is my brother. He is staying with me this summer but will soon be back in Missouri to finish up his last year of high school.

The other day he asked me why some of his cigars had the word "Havana" written on them even though they weren't from Cuba. I didn't know the answer and suggested he post up on the Asylum.

Sorry for the double post up there. We were having wireless internet problems last night and it must have posted twice on accident. I didn't even know that had happened until I saw the thread this morning.

Crase21 is a very good BOTL and I am sure he will be a great addition to the Asylum.

Thanks aerochris, We're glad to have him!





... Group Hug? :tu

[rizzle]

For the second time, they are for the American market and we speak english. For the most part. :D

English *@#*^*@^$. Do you speak it?

http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~ifjkl/pics/samuel_l_jackson.jpg

[Skywalker]

because when you smoke one your "Havana good time"

Nice!!!;)

I like that answer!!!

[GoatLocker]

Welcome crase21, I guess your question is pretty well answered, but I have to correct Derrek on one thing below (in RED). :D


to put it a different way but repeat what everyone else has said...

in italian...roma
in english...rome
in canadian...rome, eh?


in spanish...habana
in english...havana
in canadian...havana, eh?

:hm

[poker]

Hey guys. Crase21 is my brother. He is staying with me this summer but will soon be back in Missouri to finish up his last year of high school.

The other day he asked me why some of his cigars had the word "Havana" written on them even though they weren't from Cuba. I didn't know the answer and suggested he post up on the Asylum.

Sorry for the double post up there. We were having wireless internet problems last night and it must have posted twice on accident. I didn't even know that had happened until I saw the thread this morning.

Crase21 is a very good BOTL and I am sure he will be a great addition to the Asylum.


HIGH SCHOOL?

Oh man :r

[Bruce]

LOL@Tom!!!

[Darrell]

HIGH SCHOOL?

Oh man :r

I certainly hope he's 18. :r

[HauteCuban]

I think the original question deserves a Cuban to answer it. And as a Cuban I feel it totally appropriate to answer the Habana, Havana question.

So ... the real difference is that if you are a Cuban in Cuba you would call Havana, "Ciudad de La Habana" because that is the CORRECT format, spelling and pronunciation in Cuba. As a matter of fact we Cubans don't even enunciate the H at all. A real Cuban saying Habana would sound like La ahbana.

Whether your cigars say Havana or Habana have everything to do with whether or not they are actually Rolled & MADE in Cuba. If they are Cuban Seed ONLY you will more than likely see the word Havana, In Jamaica, Bahamas and most other nearby caribbean neighboring countries, if you purchase a Cuban, they will say HABANA, Cuba because they are most likely 100% real grown & rolled in Cuba. Although BEWARE there are many fakes anywhere you go. Depending on the brand you buy there are identifying factors on real vs fake. Just my 2 cents worth and experience.

And if you want to legally experience a REAL Home Grown & Rolled Cuban, go to a neighboring island. Look for the ones with HABANA bands/stamps verify authenticity and enjoy!

Anything else is just Cuban seed grown who knows where and claiming to be a Cuban which is in no offense like a Puerto Rican, Dominican or Mexican claiming to be Cuban. There is a BIG difference. Our Coffee, Our Rum, Our Cigars Our Sugar Cane and of course Our Women are ONE and ONLY :wnr

P.S My maternal grandmother was born in Cuba in 1899 while Cuba was under US occupation and her trade as an adult was primarily as a Piano professor and her evening job as a single widowed mother of 9 children was rolling and banding PARTAGAS cigars in the Partagas Factory in Habana, Cuba
which to this day is still a MAJOR tourist attraction in Cuba. So I do have a little 1st hand knowledge passed down from my grandmother who lived to be almost 103.

Cheers!

References

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/16124

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/16209

[Porch Dweller]

I have a response but I'm going to wait seven years to post it. ;)

[pnoon]

I have a response but I'm going to wait seven years to post it. ;)

:lr
As a bonus, we did get links to Cigar Aficionado - the be-all and end-all of the cigar world. :rolleyes:

[icehog3]

The more pressing question....what happened to crase21???? :confused:

[AdamJoshua]

The more pressing question....what happened to crase21???? :confused:

Well hopefully he graduated High School! :D

[hotreds]

crase21

to put it a different way but repeat what everyone else has said...

in italian...roma
in canadian...rome


in spanish...habana
in canadian...havana

you really dont need to stress over it...just accept that other languages spell things different than we do.

derrek :hm


Or: When in Rome do as the Romans,
when in Turkey do as the turkeys.

[markem]

The more pressing question....what happened to crase21???? :confused:

He is but the latest we wonder about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJlD5roDqNw

[mosesbotbol]

Habanos is a trademark. Havana is a city.

[The Poet]

What I wonder is how Australians manage to keep beer in their mugs when they are standing upside-down.

[hudd]

This was an interesting read

[8zeros]

What I wonder is how Australians manage to keep beer in their mugs when they are standing upside-down.
Gravity works in reverse dan unda.

[The Poet]

So here it sucks and there it blows?

[Don Fernando]

The tobacco is from cuban seed and they are primarily for the English (American) market. The rest of the world doesn't have that many non-cubans to choose from. The rest of the world smokes, primarily, cuban cigars. We are special. :rolleyes:

In Germany more than 50% of the cigars sold are non Cubans, in The Netherlands its close to 50/50. We don't have the huge selection you guys have, but all the main brands are represented on the European market.

[aerochris]

The more pressing question....what happened to crase21???? :confused:

I have an answer to this question, but have to resurrect the thread to give it...
crase21 is alive and well. He graduated high school, went on to graduate college, and is now employed in a prominent position as a chemical engineer. Doesn't seem like this thread would have started this many years ago!

[icehog3]

I have an answer to this question, but have to resurrect the thread to give it...
crase21 is alive and well. He graduated high school, went on to graduate college, and is now employed in a prominent position as a chemical engineer. Doesn't seem like this thread would have started this many years ago!

He was on CA for 4 days, I think we can take credit for his success. :D

Tell him to pop back in and post on this thread for a hoot. :r