Can someone fill me in on the Cigar Drama?

[BUCASmoker]

So I was a member of Club Stogie several years ago (some of you may remember me, some may not).

Now that I have much more time on my hands, I decided to pick up the habit again :). I paid a visit to clubstogie.com and was redirected to Puff Cigar. I posted a thread asking what the heck was going on, and a few members directed me to this website. But their links were blocked in some of the PMs. What's the deal?

Is there a cigar civil war brewing?

Thank you to Shawn (ssutton), jledou, and Jim (negncic) for pointing me to this site... I appreciate it!


-Vadim

[Darrell]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

[Tenor CS]

Long story short, a guy named Jon Caputo bought Club Stogie and several other sites, and merged them as Puff.com. Several of the people who are now here did not like the way things were over there, nor did Caputo do himself any favors by responding to the tiniest criticisms in a very immature manner. The "Team of 11" created this place and I, along with many others, am very grateful.

[BUCASmoker]

I have got to admit, I do like this place a lot better than Puff from just a superficial look. Not as many advertisements, or gimmicks. Seems more "homely"

Are there any old BOTLs from the CS days that post on here?

[Chris.]

Fromt what I've been told, some of the old mods from CS were unhappy with the new management and left to create CA. Most, if not all of the great people from CS are now on CA. Welcome to your new home :tu

[BUCASmoker]

Does CA have the same volume of cigars going back and forth among members? My favorite part of CS was all the bombs, PIF, and things like that.

[BradNC]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

I don't know anything about the drama but loved the way you summed things up. :D

[hotreds]

Indeed, about 95% of CS members are here, and yes, there are cigars flying all over the place!

[BUCASmoker]

Good to hear!

[BUCASmoker]

Now to build up my collection and start sending out a few stray missiles.

[Thaplumbr]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

Darrell, always an upper statesman!:r

[smokin5]

I have got to admit, I do like this place a lot better than Puff from just a superficial look. Not as many advertisements, or gimmicks. Seems more "homely"

That's because you've been looking at our face photos.:ss

[MajorCaptSilly]

It was all my fault. I told Da Klugs I liked him and it made him uncomfortable enough to abandon ship. Then I found him again. The restraining order is kind of an inside joke between us.

MCS

[lightning9191]

Here is the origin of Cigar Asylum as told by he who calls himself Administrator: Link (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14966)

[reggiebuckeye]

It was all my fault. I told Da Klugs I liked him and it made him uncomfortable enough to abandon ship. Then I found him again. The restraining order is kind of an inside joke between us.

MCS

Don't you have a few of those out? I'm not going to rat you out, but.......

[JaKaacH]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/1head.jpg

[LasciviousXXX]

Fromt what I've been told, some of the old mods from CS were unhappy with the new management and left to create CA:tu


Just to clarify, 100% of the MOD staff left and formed the Asylum. You will recognize them by their red user names ;)

[JJG]

I had the same experience a while back. went to CS after a year off. It seemed really dead and I didn't see any familiar names. I made a post inquiring about what happened and was directed here.

I just went back to take a look for curiosity's sake and came across this hilarious post:

"Picked these[Cohibas] up last weekend. I'm quite excited because of all the CC's I have, these are the only ones I'm absolutely certain about being real."

[leasingthisspace]

Welcome home.
Posted via Mobile Device

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Welcome to Cigar Asylum:)

[darkninja67]

This site reminds me a lot of the break up of genmay from the [H]

[poker]

I have got to admit, I do like this place a lot better than Puff from just a superficial look. Not as many advertisements, or gimmicks. Seems more "homely"

Are there any old BOTLs from the CS days that post on here?

Just to clarify... there are zero advertisments and zero gimmicks here. :tu

[icehog3]

Not as many advertisements, or gimmicks. Seems more "homely"


Just to clarify... there are zero advertisments and zero gimmicks here. :tu
Beat me to it, Kelly! :r


Fromt what I've been told, some of the old mods from CS were unhappy with the new management and left to create CA. Most, if not all of the great people from CS are now on CA. Welcome to your new home :tu

Just to clarify, 100% of the MOD staff left and formed the Asylum. You will recognize them by their red user names

You beat me to that, Dustin! :r

I will just sit back and be quiet now...except to say Welcome to the Asylum, Vadim! :ss

[marge796]

Welcome my friend I'm sure you know this place rocks!


:banger


Chris.....

[Wolfgang]

Jon Caputo sucks ass.

HEY! There is no need to give compliments. :ss

[68TriShield]

I have got to admit, I do like this place a lot better than Puff from just a superficial look. Not as many advertisements, or gimmicks. Seems more "homely"

Are there any old BOTLs from the CS days that post on here?

:( I don't think it's that bad...

[Ashcan Bill]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

Good thing Darrell's mellowing out! :r

And really, did you honestly want to be a member of a "Puff" forum? :confused:

Welcome to the Asylum. :tu

[Chris.]

With a blowfish mascot??!!!! :confused:

[s15driftking]

Just to clarify... there are zero advertisments and zero gimmicks here. :tu

you mean you dont like how slow the sight runs and circus-esque that front page is with the video in the bottom right corner that re-ups everytime a page loads with a commercial for something either cigar-related or totally unrelated like bathroom tissue?

Hey baby, anything to pump a little spending change towards JonC's way right? yeah baaaaby!!!

http://shop.punishment.uk.com/images/mr%20greedy.JPG

[Scottw]

Welcome welcome!!!!:dance:

[nozero]

Hello and welcome to The Cigar Asylum!
:tu

I have a feeling you're going to like it here...

[VTDragon]

Welcome home. This is the place you remember, not Puff.

[jbo57]

Fromt what I've been told, some of the old mods from CS were unhappy with the new management and left to create CA. Most, if not all of the great people from CS are now on CA. Welcome to your new home :tu

Not ALL but a very high percentage. :)

[groogs]

Everyone has pretty well summed it up. JC flushed CS down the toilet and thank god the team of 11 created a new home to carry on the brotherhood we have come enjoy so much.

[ahc4353]

No drama allowed here.

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[GrtndpwrflOZ]

Drama......It's here as much as it is/was there.
If they decided to sell this site you would see. All the Drama that was on CS left and came here.

It's the same people +/- a few.

Except for Dave.........He's not here. Now THAT'S Drama on CS's part.

(where's that flame suit....I know I have one.....)

[LasciviousXXX]

?

Not sure I understand what you're saying GrtndpwrflOz. Are you saying that CigarAsylum has a lot of drama? Are you saying that we (as the Team of 11) might sell CA?

And which Dave are you talking about?

[GrtndpwrflOZ]

No Bro,
Not alot of Drama...about the same as CS. I have only been around for a little over 2 years now so I haven't seen everything.

What I meant by the selling CA comment was...The only time I believe I saw drama was when people started buggin' about CS being sold. I wouldn't think that CA would be sold and in no way am I trying to start Drama (haha).

Was there more drama than that at CS as opposed to CA? I think not. As we all know, this is my opinion. More Passionate discussions.....perhaps.
I don't live here though.

Dave, Bro....Dave..."Blaylock" that's it. I think it used to be something similar...but different.
Real good guy. Used to do the 5 finger bag buys. Mingled with the Philly Crew.

He's still over at CS.

Just giving my point of view. No worries.

OZ



?

Not sure I understand what you're saying GrtndpwrflOz. Are you saying that CigarAsylum has a lot of drama? Are you saying that we (as the Team of 11) might sell CA?

And which Dave are you talking about?

[LasciviousXXX]

Its all good bro. Just checking to make sure we're not giving out the impression that we might sell the place or anything like that. That's the absolute LAST thing I ever expect to happen here.

I get your viewpoint man. Its all good, everyone has their own speed and style and I'm glad that so many of our BOTL's and SOTL's decided to hang their hats here.

Ah yeah, I remember Dave. At one point he was signed on over here too...before he became a mod over at Puff. Haven't seen him around much since then.

[Scottw]

I don't think Emperor Caputo allows his mods to join other forums.

[NCRadioMan]

Ah yeah, I remember Dave. At one point he was signed on over here too...before he became a mod over at Puff. Haven't seen him around much since then.

I don't think Emperor Caputo allows his mods to join other forums.

:tpd:That's pretty much the case as I understood it. :rolleyes:

[csbrewfisher]

I'll pay $1.50 plus 50% of all profits from the sale of cremosas and Phillies, Dustin.

[icehog3]

I would wholeheartedly disagree that there is as much drama at the Asylum as there was at Club Stogie, but that is my point of view.

[poker]

...But their links were blocked in some of the PMs.

:r Why dosent this surprise me?


I personally love Craputo. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have what we have now.:tu

[NCRadioMan]

:r Why dosent this surprise me?
Oh yeah. "Asylum" is a banned word at poof. No matter where you type it you get ******. :r

[icehog3]

Oh yeah. "Asylum" is a banned word at poof. No matter where you type it you get ******. :r

I would try, but I am banned. Oh, not banned in a usual sense according to Jon. Just banned so that I can't log on, and my e-mail address is banned from changing my password or signing up. But that isn't really banned, just ask Jon. ;)

[Jbailey]

You're just on an infinite time out Tom.

[ahc4353]

http://static.bbmp3.com/smilies/jacked.gif

Best part of this thread is I noticed Tom has almost 7,000 posts! :r

(Sorry, end of thread jack)

[NCRadioMan]

I would try, but I am banned. Oh, not banned in a usual sense according to Jon. Just banned so that I can't log on, and my e-mail address is banned from changing my password or signing up. But that isn't really banned, just ask Jon. ;)
http://www.youpimped.com/gallery/gallery_1013.jpg

[Negncic]

Nice to see that you made it out of the cesspool. :ss

[GrtndpwrflOZ]

Asylum is banished from txt at CS...puff

Under my screen name it should read Int. Asylum Gorilla, but instead it reads
Int. ***** Gorilla

Also, the whole Dave thing and Emporer Capu..... is the Asholeo things that go on there. They are still growing and people are still joining, but that is neither here nor there.

As for the Drama. Everyone (Other than Dave) that I know came here from CS. So where is the difference, other than there are no certified vendor advertisements (these by the way got me into the whole cc world directly, after talking with some people that I met thru CS. We all know no one gives up their sources to strangers. If a couple people (mods) didn't tell me the advertisements were legit It would have taken me forever to make connections to those sites.
Oh yeah, the pretty colors are here.

I Love CA, don't get me wrong, as I love ICC, & ya know puff is fun to run around in also. It reminds me of when I was more of a noob than I am now.

Can you feel the love?

OZ
fighting the battle: If tobacco is a drug and cuban cigars are illegal am I partaking in Illegal Drugs?

[The Poet]

Why can't we all just get along, I wonder. Hey I was NEVER on those other two boards, but I've seen this $#!+ before elsewhere. Friends of mine got banned from the old JRBB (before Steve Saka finally shut it down inna middle of the night) for the slightest little snub that got a bit outta hand - but at least they had the excuse of being tied to a business site legitimately. So summa the old guys there started up herfer's paradise, then soon started slappin' their friends around like Hitler did Poland, with bans left and right. So then another schism in the church of the leaf spawned the cigar rebellion, which seems to have died of natural causes.

Hell, the best things cigars have done for me is teach me how to sit down calmly and relax, yet it seems like this peace cannot translate to the web. Just one word I'd like to leave you with - Ommmmmmmmmm.

[TanithT]

Oh. I did find the Puff forums recently and posted a few things there, but if the admin is that dick-like, I'm glad to get a heads-up before investing a lot more time and energy.

[rack04]

The past is the past. Let's move on. :tu

[Col. Kurtz]

The past is the past. Let's move on. :tu

Hear Hear! Thank you Team of Eleven!

[bigloo]

... and sometimes a simple hello thread leads to a healthy and meaningful venting session... welcome whatever your name was way back on the first page:)

[WildBlueSooner]

I have never been a part of any other cigar forum and do not plan to. I have more fun here than I need to :r

[ca21455]

I must say I missed the old CS, but that went away in October of 2008. :)

Welcome to CA Vadim!

[BUCASmoker]

Why can't we all just get along, I wonder. Hey I was NEVER on those other two boards, but I've seen this $#!+ before elsewhere. Friends of mine got banned from the old JRBB (before Steve Saka finally shut it down inna middle of the night) for the slightest little snub that got a bit outta hand - but at least they had the excuse of being tied to a business site legitimately. So summa the old guys there started up herfer's paradise, then soon started slappin' their friends around like Hitler did Poland, with bans left and right. So then another schism in the church of the leaf spawned the cigar rebellion, which seems to have died of natural causes.

Hell, the best things cigars have done for me is teach me how to sit down calmly and relax, yet it seems like this peace cannot translate to the web. Just one word I'd like to leave you with - Ommmmmmmmmm.

Serenity Now! [/seinfeld reference]

[Chris.]

"3 2 1. 1 2 3. What the heck is bothering mee?"

[Starscream]

Welcome to the Asylum!:tu

[BUCASmoker]

Is the Ring Gauge feature of CS gone? I remember being able to bump up other peoples RG for cool bombs/contests, etc.

[yourchoice]

Is the Ring Gauge feature of CS gone? I remember being able to bump up other peoples RG for cool bombs/contests, etc.

Here ya go (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=4810&postcount=10)

[icehog3]

As for the Drama. Everyone (Other than Dave) that I know came here from CS. So where is the difference, other than there are no certified vendor advertisements

One difference is that the "owners" of this site don't lie to the members. :2

[BUCASmoker]

Here ya go (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=4810&postcount=10)

Thanks!

[The Professor]

One difference is that the "owners" of this site don't lie to the members. :2
Except for when pnoon says it wasn't him. :pn

Remember kids: never trust a fart ... and never trust pnoon with regards to a fart. :banger





(nothin' but love my bald brother :p)

[HK3-]

Asylum is banished from txt at CS...puff

Under my screen name it should read Int. Asylum Gorilla, but instead it reads
Int. ***** Gorilla

Also, the whole Dave thing and Emporer Capu..... is the Asholeo things that go on there. They are still growing and people are still joining, but that is neither here nor there.

As for the Drama. Everyone (Other than Dave) that I know came here from CS. So where is the difference, other than there are no certified vendor advertisements (these by the way got me into the whole cc world directly, after talking with some people that I met thru CS. We all know no one gives up their sources to strangers. If a couple people (mods) didn't tell me the advertisements were legit It would have taken me forever to make connections to those sites.
Oh yeah, the pretty colors are here.

I Love CA, don't get me wrong, as I love ICC, & ya know puff is fun to run around in also. It reminds me of when I was more of a noob than I am now.

Can you feel the love?

OZ
fighting the battle: If tobacco is a drug and cuban cigars are illegal am I partaking in Illegal Drugs?

I can tell you where the difference is. This board has "aged, well seasoned members". We all know each other, some personally, some not, but we all respect each other. It's not a group of wild animals who rant and rave over member count or advertisement endorsements. I haven't seen a fraction of the pile ons, or drama wars that I used to see on CS. Now the Team of 11 just terminates it before it develops. High five guys for all the work you do.

That's my :2 on the difference.

[pnoon]

Except for when pnoon says it wasn't him. :pn

Remember kids: never trust a fart ... and never trust pnoon with regards to a fart. :banger





(nothin' but love my bald brother :p)

Uh huh. OK.

Keep an eye on that CUT, avatar and sig line, buddy. ;)

:D

[pnoon]

One difference is that the "owners" of this site don't lie to the members. :2

Another is that the "owners" of this site don't delete posts, close threads and ban members simply because they post something they don't like about the site.

[poker]

Uh huh. OK.

Keep an eye on that CUT, avatar and sig line, buddy. ;)

:D

Dont be suprised if "The Professor" becomes "The Prophylactic" for a little while :r:r

[Noodles]

I can tell you where the difference is. This board has "aged, well seasoned members". We all know each other, some personally, some not, but we all respect each other. It's not a group of wild animals who rant and rave over member count or advertisement endorsements. I haven't seen a fraction of the pile ons, or drama wars that I used to see on CS. Now the Team of 11 just terminates it before it develops. High five guys for all the work you do.

That's my :2 on the difference.

So are you saying the moderators of the old CS was not doing their job properly? Got you. :D

[poker]

No, actually at the end of my stay there I was starting not to care anymore. Our decisions on how to run things were being "overruled".

[s15driftking]

As for the Drama. Everyone (Other than Dave) that I know came here from CS. So where is the difference, other than there are no certified vendor advertisements ?


The differences might be subtle at first. I think it's the general attitude and demeanor of this site that has such a positive vibe with the members best-interests in mind.



and by that ^^^ I mean that there's not some guy only tryign to lookout for himself by herding a bunch of members together so that he can go use that "high member count" to go to companies and say "LOOK, LOOK, advertise here, i have alot of traffic"...

...That's why we don't even have advertisements here, We're trying to break away form the money-making and focus more on building relationships/friendships in a community full of true enthusiasts.... who like gurkhas


:tu:tu:tu


PS - in regard to what Pnoon wrote in post 69 ^^^^

You are absolutely right, he (Jcap) tried to play "gestapo" and hush up anything that was negatively opinioned towards his site/ideas.... that's crappy in my opinion

[The Professor]

Uh huh. OK.

Keep an eye on that CUT, avatar and sig line, buddy. ;)

:D

Dont be suprised if "The Professor" becomes "The Prophylactic" for a little while :r

Brothers. Friends. You know you are two of my favorite people in the world, right? :D

:banger

[rrplasencia]

Jon Caputo sucks ass, that's where the drama started.

:tu short and eloquent

[ahc4353]

Right about now this thread could use some Da Klugs wisdom. :sad

[icehog3]

Another is that the "owners" of this site don't delete posts, close threads and ban members simply because they post something they don't like about the site.

Very true.....if it was JC, there would be a post or two missing from this thread. ;)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I can tell you where the difference is. This board has "aged, well seasoned members". We all know each other, some personally, some not, but we all respect each other. It's not a group of wild animals who rant and rave over member count or advertisement endorsements. I haven't seen a fraction of the pile ons, or drama wars that I used to see on CS. Now the Team of 11 just terminates it before it develops. High five guys for all the work you do.

That's my :2 on the difference.

:tpd:

[gnukfu]

When I saw the title of the thread I thought there was a new show on TV about cigars....shucks!

[thebiglebowski]

I would try, but I am banned. Oh, not banned in a usual sense according to Jon. Just banned so that I can't log on, and my e-mail address is banned from changing my password or signing up. But that isn't really banned, just ask Jon. ;)

wow, really Tom? that's so bush league...

i'll tell you the main difference, in my mind, between the two forums. the discourse is more intelligent over here. here, there are dozens inmates who i can identify with and whose opinionions i respect and who create thoughtful posts. posts, that typically inspire some really good dialogue. over there, it's much more... basic, for lack of a better term. nowhere near as though-provoking as the asylum (in most cases... there was that little diddy about shaving one's ass...). every now and then i'll go over there and lurk, read a few things and reaffirm my decision that this is the place to be. hey, look - i can actually type PUFF and not get ****!

and i don't even want to know what the casino cash is all about...

[rrplasencia]

to summarize:
jon is "he who shall not be named" (<--borrowed from vin's contest op) and Tom is our harry potter, think that sums it up, could have used any of the 11 as harry but artistically i felt hogwarts uniform would fit Tom best :D

[icehog3]

to summarize:
jon is "he who shall not be named" (<--borrowed from vin's contest op) and Tom is our harry potter, think that sums it up, could have used any of the 11 as harry but artistically i felt hogwarts uniform would fit Tom best :D

I have hogwarts, Richard? :r

[ActionAndy]

That's because you've been looking at our face photos.:ss

I am incredibly handsome so you could not have been talking about me. True story: twice in the last month my fortune cookie note said "Handsome is as handsome does."

[icehog3]

I am incredibly handsome so you could not have been talking about me. True story: twice in the last month my fortune cookie note said "Handsome is as handsome does."

And the third said, "If your ego was a state, it would be the 51st state...but the 3rd largest".



;) :r

[JJG]

So where is the difference, other than there are no certified vendor advertisements (these by the way got me into the whole cc world directly.

haha yeah. I have the old CS banner ads to thank for my introduction to CCs.

As for the differences, you're right that most of the people here came from CS but I think this site benefits greatly from the focus on community and friendship instead of trying to be the biggest or most extensive, revenue generating site. I like the fact that CA is not trying to be the most popular cigar forum on the web. There are still plenty of highly active members here whose collective cigar knowledge and experience far exceeds any other site I've been to.

I checked out Puff the other night after reading this thread and I really don't care for the layout either. There are just too many links and videos and rss feeds and advertisements and polls, etc.....the list goes on. I much prefer the 'keep it simple' approach.