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JE3146
06-05-2009, 12:22 AM
For over a year I've been putting up with an inside joke that is so interwoven into the forum community that I almost feel naive that a single post can undo the foothold it has taken to some. It began as playful humor, but developed into downright sick humor and possibly even have damaging repercussions in many areas of my life that people may not think twice of before acting.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about then feel free to just ignore the rest of this post.

For those that know me, I try to be a good sport about things. I try to put a smile on my face and take it in stride. I've never really enjoyed the label given to me. Its origins and how fast it spread still irritate me to this day. I went through phases trying to just accept it and have some fun with it. Eventually I just tried to give it up completely. Sadly though it won't go away.

I've lately started to realize that with my wedding coming up some people may take actions to send things related to this. The last thing I want to do is open some embarrassing gift after the most important day of my life and try to answer a barrage of questions that I really won't know where to begin with. The fact of the matter is I don't want to be in those situations. It's degrading, embarrassing, and further aggravates my stress level. I have enough stress going on in my life right now. If you know me well enough, you know what I'm dealing with right now.

But even then I kept it inside for the most part. I've spoken to a few people regarding this matter and a couple have even made attempts to get it to stop. However, the mob mentality of this site just doesn't permit such minor attempts at change. Drastic things need to be spoken to get change, and it really upsets me that it has to come to that. Even with the above fears, I really didn't let it get to me. I have far worse things in my life to worry about.

However, with stress, anxiety, and life's curve balls; emotions can flare on a whim. This past week I was pushed to a breaking point that I really didn't think I could cross. I felt disgusted, sick to my stomach, embarrassed more than I have ever been in my life, and it darn near ruined a week that I had been looking forward to for over 8 months. Those of you who went to ELVIS will probably know what I'm talking about.

After this event, I had some time to clear my head, and I ultimately decided that when I returned, I wanted things to be different. I don't want to deal with this anymore. I don't want to be apart of this sick inside joke. To summarize, I want things to stop.

Certain photographs were taken. I formally request they either be deleted or kept locked away only to people who were present. I don't want to see them on facebook, myspace, or any public setting. Doing so will be taken as great insult to me. Call it whining, but to be frank, I've EARNED the right to be sick of this.



Moving forward. I do appreciate the generosity and creativity displayed by my friends though this whole sick episode of my life. I am always grateful and deeply appreciative of all that has been given to me, and never in any way would I turn my back to that. What I don't enjoy seeing is money wasted on things that have no use to me. This is money that could be spent sending cigars to the troops or sending cigars to a guy who is down on his luck. It is instead wasted on items that I will never use and just aggravate me. It may be fun to you, but it has it's toll on me. I don't need that in my life right now.

I've said about all I can think of saying on this matter, but I do wish to leave one following comment. Take this as a lesson that certain things are funny, but can push a person too far. While my reactions weren't drastically obvious at ELVIS, they were apparently very obvious, as I received multiple comments about it. I deeply apologize if I offended anyone, as I hope it's obvious that it was not my intention in any regard. It just pushed me to a level that I haven't experienced in a very long time, and one I don't wish to ever return to.

Please keep it that way.

DPD6030
06-05-2009, 03:09 AM
I respect your wishes even though I never jumped on the bandwagon. Have a good day Jordan.

14holestogie
06-05-2009, 05:13 AM
I respect your wishes even though I never jumped on the bandwagon. Have a good day Jordan.

:tpd:

There comes a point when what started as good-natured ribbing becomes an irritant. Only a few people on here know what's that like.

Fun is fun only when both parties concur. When it becomes more than that to one, then it's time to show some restraint and respect the wishes of those individuals.

Wanger
06-05-2009, 08:29 AM
I know what you're talking about, and I understand. Makes sense to me. Everyone's got a different level for things. You obviously saw where I'm at. LOL

kaisersozei
06-05-2009, 08:37 AM
I'm only partially aware of the content that motivated your posting, I just wanted to say that I am very impressed by your post. Well done, Jordan.

And best wishes for positive outcomes during this time of your life.

elderboy02
06-05-2009, 08:46 AM
:tpd:

There comes a point when what started as good-natured ribbing becomes an irritant. Only a few people on here know what's that like.

Fun is fun only when both parties concur. When it becomes more than that to one, then it's time to show some restraint and respect the wishes of those individuals.

:tpd: Well said.

I know what Jordan is talking about and I know how frustrated he was getting from conversations I was having with him.

csbrewfisher
06-05-2009, 08:52 AM
Jordan, your honesty is to be admired. I think that reasonable people can expect that because of your forthright and well-thought post, the torment... though intended to be good natured...will stop. I hope it does, and wish you the best for your wedding day and your marriage.

awsmith4
06-05-2009, 08:56 AM
A joke is a joke only as long as its funny, this one has run its course and maybe what happened in Vegas can stay in Vegas. You were a good sport for a long time but it is time to put this to bed. Hopefully these incidents will turn eventually to fond memories but in the mean time I hope that it does not deter you from enjoying your friends here at the Asylum. All the best wishes to you and Ashley for your upcoming nuptials and may it be a happy and fulfilling time for all.

Dooge
06-05-2009, 08:57 AM
Duly noted, my friend. Not that I'm taking full responsibility for this or saying that I was the ringleader on any of it but I have partaken, even if it was a little here and there.

I feel that it took a man to make the request, and as friends I feel that you had all the right to make the request.

Andy.

poker
06-05-2009, 09:00 AM
...the mob mentality of this site


Really? I've always thought the Asylum was one of the calmer sites.

loki
06-05-2009, 09:10 AM
Really? I've always thought the Asylum was one of the calmer sites.

we've had our share of dog piles in our short time here

poker
06-05-2009, 09:11 AM
Truth I guess. :D

gnukfu
06-05-2009, 09:52 AM
No clue what you're talking about but what seem be simple jokes can get out of hand. I'm sure the members here will respect your wishes Jordan. :tu

Don Fernando
06-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Jordan, as I said to you in Vegas, I called off something I was going to have made when I saw how upset you were, and I really felt sorry for you. If I offended or insulted you in any way, please accept my appologies.

OLS
06-05-2009, 10:56 AM
Really? I've always thought the Asylum was one of the calmer sites.
Ditto. Thank God I don't know WTF he is talking about.

s15driftking
06-05-2009, 10:56 AM
No clue what you're talking about but what seem be simple jokes can get out of hand.

True, but jokes are jokes (not playing Devil's advocate FYI).

LasciviousXXX
06-05-2009, 11:59 AM
I've spoken with Jordan about this as I was the one that started this whole ball rolling back on CS. The nickname originated from something I did back in the day and I truly feel bad about how its affected you brother.

I am a the practical joker/always good for a laugh kind of guy and I sometimes forget that people take things differently than I do. I take just as much as I dish out but sometimes need to be reminded that everyone in life has their limits and just because mine are out somewhere near Jupiter, not everyone's is. I've often said to people that you'd pretty much have to call my mother a whore to offend me, and even then...she might have deserved it. It just speaks to my nature as a general goof-ball.

That being said, I'm very sorry its affected you this way bro.

-MG-
06-05-2009, 01:27 PM
...To summarize, I want things to stop

You won't hear another peep out of me now that I know it was wearing on you. I've also un-hosted a few photochop's that I had done in the past.

Thanks for letting us know this was causing you grief, as I'm sure most of us had no idea and would have ceased long ago had we known the impact.

sikk50
06-05-2009, 02:01 PM
For once I'm quite pleased to be on the outside of things. I only post to send my support as I know how it feels when a joke has gone to far and too long and applaud you for having the courage to step up to your friends and ask for a stop.

icehog3
06-05-2009, 04:09 PM
I think I posted one pic on CS back when this first started, Jordan, but the joke got old fast. I can only imagine how it was for you if you were offended as time went on. Hope this is the last you need to say on the matter.

RGD.
06-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Well I'm clueless as to the facts . . . so I do hope it's all a thing of the past. And I'd like to wish you congratulations on your upcoming wedding and may you both have a long, fruitful and beautiful life together!


Ron

JaKaacH
06-05-2009, 07:36 PM
OK no more jokes about your favorite beer..
I won't even mention its name.



Taste Great:al

LESS FILLING:al

s0leful0ne
06-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I agree with you Jordan, I myself have not been above participating in the joke at times and for that I apologize.

I have similar issues with a particular joke that many members participate in that strongly upsets me. However rather than joking with/at me, they choose to speak crudely about my younger sister and/or her friend. Many have understood and have ceased but it seems to be floating around here and there and certain members seem to still perpetuate the joke. There have been instances where they have overheard or seen inappropriate comments, and I am glad that they did not see the worst of it. I hope that this too will be the end of it.

Jordan, I hope that this thread ends the matter that you speak of, and I wish you the best of luck.

Cigary
06-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Sorry that you had to go through whatever the joke was. I am wondering why a private PM wasn't in order with those you felt were causing you more anxiety or was this such thing that it got out of control that you had to make it more public? In any event telling others how it is affecting you is the right thing to do and whatever is out there that is causing you such pain maybe those who can edit or delete these posts, pics, threads , etc will do that for you.

ucubed
06-05-2009, 08:46 PM
I apologize for the the antagonizing that I may have caused and it's 100% understandable... I'll make sure that nothing will be posted. I'm sure this was meant for it to be to the public, since many of us know the extent of these jokes, know the story behind it and now know that things should cease. He's letting the public know, those who join in on these jokes that enough is enough, I'm sure that 100 PM's are out of the question because many know of such antics. Again apologies Jordan

jjirons69
06-05-2009, 11:53 PM
Congrats on the upcoming wedding, Jordan!! :tu

tobii3
06-06-2009, 12:02 AM
I'm just as guilty for cracking the jokes in chat. No prob leaving that in the past.

Jordan, my apologies for beating that dead horse.

Waynegro1
06-06-2009, 01:28 AM
Well said, Jordan. While I've never made a joke about it, I have to admit I laughed at the creativity of many. You've done a lot for our little community and I'm sure it wasn't easy to post this.
Congrats on the coming wedding. :tu

Wanger
06-06-2009, 10:17 AM
OK no more jokes about your favorite beer..
I won't even mention its name.



Taste Great:al

LESS FILLING:al

Get it right...Code Blue!

alley00p
06-06-2009, 10:34 AM
Jordan, I remember you mentioning the subject in chat a couple of weeks ago when we were in there alone. I never knew how the whole thing started, but you did say "I wish it would stop" that night.

I'm a tease, as all my boys and my wife would tell you, but I try to never let it get out of hand.

Mainly, I just want to say that Sue and I enjoyed meeting you and Ashley at ELVIS, and I wish you both as much luck in your future as we have had (32 years this December!) :tu



:dance:

The Poet
06-06-2009, 10:50 AM
Damn, now this newbie's gotta search the whole dang site to figger out WTF went on. But, with all due respect to Jordan's apology, and to all who's feelings got burned, I'd like to submit that cigars ain't much fun without a little flame.

loki
06-06-2009, 12:25 PM
Damn, now this newbie's gotta search the whole dang site to figger out WTF went on. But, with all due respect to Jordan's apology, and to all who's feelings got burned, I'd like to submit that cigars ain't much fun without a little flame.

no you don't, you have to drop it and leave it alone. Cigars are about friendship and brotherhood. when one brother isn't having fun anymore with a subject it's time to drop it and leave it the **** alone.

av8tor152d
06-06-2009, 12:32 PM
I think I can agree that it is well past time for this to be gone, Jordan hats off to you for being a sport about it, and I promise to you the matter is forgotten and will never surface again.

Waynegro1
06-06-2009, 01:27 PM
Damn, now this newbie's gotta search the whole dang site to figger out WTF went on. But, with all due respect to Jordan's apology, and to all who's feelings got burned, I'd like to submit that cigars ain't much fun without a little flame.

Easy, if you don't know, then the post probably wasn't directed at you. Cigars are much more fun when the "flame" isn't pointed at you.

Barteur
06-06-2009, 01:37 PM
No clue what you're talking about but what seem be simple jokes can get out of hand. I'm sure the members here will respect your wishes Jordan. :tu

:tpd:

icehog3
06-06-2009, 01:51 PM
Damn, now this newbie's gotta search the whole dang site to figger out WTF went on. But, with all due respect to Jordan's apology, and to all who's feelings got burned, I'd like to submit that cigars ain't much fun without a little flame.

It was actually Jordan's feelings that got burned. Best to leave sleeping dogs lie. :2

Wolfgang
06-07-2009, 02:58 AM
Ive done my fair share of STUFF and let it be known all photoshops will no longer be available, and no others (of this subject) will be made. Ive done more than most and im sorry.