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Trace63
05-26-2009, 11:43 PM
So, does anybody know if Ashton has any "seconds" like other manufacturers do? I would specifically be looking for a VSG second.

I know chances of that happening are 1 in a million so, does anybody have any other alternative to the VSG ( smooth chocolaty, slightly spicy stick ) ?

GodOfFire
05-26-2009, 11:51 PM
I have never ever heard of this

Raralith
05-27-2009, 12:14 AM
I'm pretty sure any top shelf cigar is not going to have seconds.

Bax
05-27-2009, 05:42 AM
I'd be in on that if you ever find one! :D

DougBushBC
05-27-2009, 06:55 AM
The Ashton VSG is made by Fuente and fuente has a distinct policy of NOT having any seconds. Anything that is mismade or veiney is either destroyed or smoked by the employees.

DougBushBC
05-27-2009, 06:56 AM
Unless you consider the 99 Rounds VSGs to be "seconds" since they were a frak up by Fuente in overfilling and thus left round.

Trace63
05-27-2009, 07:40 AM
LOL, thanks guys. I didnt think so but I thought I would give it a shot.

So any other cigars that are similar?

Raralith
05-27-2009, 12:46 PM
To the VSG? Not really. Maybe another sun grown? Rocky Partel has a line I believe but I've never tried it.

Trace63
05-27-2009, 01:42 PM
I like Rockys Sun Growns. They dont compare though. :p

Bruzee
05-27-2009, 02:53 PM
I have never had anything like the VSG. This is my favorite stick, so I too have been looking for something comparative.

WildBlueSooner
05-27-2009, 02:57 PM
There is nothing too similar that I have tried...but Rockys Sungrown are very good sticks and worth trying!

SeanGAR
05-27-2009, 03:06 PM
A unique cigar, I haven't had anything close either.

St. Lou Stu
05-27-2009, 03:06 PM
The Ashton VSG is made by Fuente and fuente has a distinct policy of NOT having any seconds. Anything that is mismade or veiney is either destroyed or smoked by the employees.

OK, so where are the applications?

longknocker
05-27-2009, 03:09 PM
OK, so where are the applications?

:tu:r

gnukfu
05-27-2009, 04:21 PM
Doesn't Fuente have Opus and Anejo seconds? :wo

DougBushBC
05-27-2009, 05:10 PM
No they don't have seconds for either of them... Lemme find the link on Vitolas.net

Edit: Fuente also is ripped off frequently by less than reputable distributors who claim to have Arturo Fuente factory seconds. “There absolutely are no Fuente seconds,” Suarez said. “ If they don’t measure up to Arturo Fuente standards, they are destroyed at the factory or given to employees to smoke.” http://vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=1

neoflex
05-27-2009, 07:13 PM
Not a VSG but have you smoked any of the Fuente Sungrown line? The best vitola IMHO is the Cuban Beli. Again, not a VSG but at $5-$6 a stick they are pretty great.:2

theonlybear4CORT
05-27-2009, 07:26 PM
Ok so after all this VSG talk is it really worth the California price to try one?

troutbreath
05-27-2009, 07:30 PM
They are delicious . . .

I'll second the other Sun Grown vitolas from Fuente. I love the CF Sungrown and the Double CF Sungrown. Was really surprised when I found them at JR earlier this year. Great stick, great price. The CF SG is a super morning stick.

theonlybear4CORT
05-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Ok I'm going to get a few sticks on Friday thanks.

joetownhound
05-27-2009, 07:41 PM
OK, so where are the applications?

:tpd:

Wolfgang
05-27-2009, 07:48 PM
check JR cigars. Thy have "equivalents"

m69c44
05-27-2009, 07:50 PM
Ok so after all this VSG talk is it really worth the California price to try one?
IMHO i think so but you are right on the cali prices Kind makes them a once in a while smoke

Raralith
05-27-2009, 11:50 PM
Ok so after all this VSG talk is it really worth the California price to try one?

To try? Yes. To buy a box locally? No. Try purchasing from various companies in Pennsylvania.

DougBushBC
05-28-2009, 04:28 AM
Or Florida... I really like the VSGs and have been smoking them more and more lately. the construction is superb the flavors are unique, and the Belicoso is only about 10 bucks here (which is too much for everyday, but not insane, and you can find it on the street, unlike opus or anejo)

greenwit
05-29-2009, 05:26 PM
There is nothing too similar that I have tried...but Rockys Sungrown are very good sticks and worth trying!

I don't care what Famous sez (or is it CI), the seconds are not as good as the firsts. They taste greener, stronger, and unbalanced IMHO. The firsts are a very good cigar. :dance:

Trace63
06-01-2009, 07:36 PM
I tried a Taboo HSG the other night. While not the same as a VSG, or close for that fact. It was a kickass stick.

I love my sweet chocolaty cigars. :D

RGD.
06-01-2009, 08:06 PM
So, does anybody know if Ashton has any "seconds" like other manufacturers do? I would specifically be looking for a VSG second.

I know chances of that happening are 1 in a million so, does anybody have any other alternative to the VSG ( smooth chocolaty, slightly spicy stick ) ?


I'm a big fan of all Ashton's to date - my first love back when of premium smokes.

Recently picked up a couple of La Aroma de Cuba (http://www.ashtoncigar.com/La-Aroma-de-Cuba-Cigars.jsp). I'm currently getting ready to buy a box or two. I'd suggest giving them a shot. Not so much "chocolaty" but I think you may like it.


Ron

longknocker
06-02-2009, 12:39 PM
I'm a big fan of all Ashton's to date - my first love back when of premium smokes.

Recently picked up a couple of La Aroma de Cuba (http://www.ashtoncigar.com/La-Aroma-de-Cuba-Cigars.jsp). I'm currently getting ready to buy a box or two. I'd suggest giving them a shot. Not so much "chocolaty" but I think you may like it.


Ron

La Aroma de Cuba is a great smoke @ reasonable prices!:tu