Tat Black - I don't get it. [Archive] - Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Sauer Grapes

05-11-2009, 07:38 AM

Don't get me wrong, they aren't horrible cigars and to be fair I've only smoked 2 or 3.

The first tasted of ammonia and some other chemical. OK, it was young.

So, I waited several months and last night had another.

The ammonia was gone, thank goodness. Still, almost the entire first half was bitter and just not good. Whatever they use in the fermentation process on these, I just don't like. In fact, I almost put it down early. I'm glad I didn't because it got better for sure, but never great. I guess I just don't really like these cigars. In fact, they have to be my least favorite Tat.

I won't rule out waiting a bit longer and trying one more, but the remaining ones very well may end up as trade bait.

Oh, and I'll NEVER get how some can say these taste like a CC. Those that know me here, know that I'm an equal opportunity smoker when it comes to NC and CC, but IMO, Tat blacks don't have a hint of CC taste in them.

Mugen910

05-11-2009, 07:40 AM

I've yet to try the one I have sitting in my humi..I don't expect it to taste like any CC but I will give it a shot someday. :D

BeerAdvocate

05-11-2009, 07:42 AM

I would like to get one to try for myself, but I dont want to give up my 1st born to do so!

e-man67

05-11-2009, 07:44 AM

I have one that has at least year on it...I gots to spark it up! I have yet to have a non cuban that tastes like a cuban...prelite smell maybe.

Made in Dade

05-11-2009, 07:45 AM

Sorry to hear you have bad luck with these.
Had one last week and it was real good.

Sauer Grapes

05-11-2009, 07:52 AM

I've yet to try the one I have sitting in my humi..I don't expect it to taste like any CC but I will give it a shot someday. :D

I still enjoy lots of cigars that have no hint of that "cuban twang." I just haven't really enjoyed a Tat Black.

I guess I was just putting the CC thing in because I've seen several posts of people thinking that the Tat Black is the most CC tasting NC they've had. I just don't see it.

DougBushBC

05-11-2009, 08:33 AM

I really really enjoy Tat Blacks.. if you have any left I think we could work a trade :)...

I wouldn't say they taste like CCs they are a bit stronger than those. But they are lip smacking good.

NCRadioMan

05-11-2009, 08:36 AM

I don't get them either. I would much rather have a J21, Noella or Especiales. Don't get me wrong, I think the Blacks are really good but the others I listed suits me better.

Mugen910

05-11-2009, 08:42 AM

I don't get them either. I would much rather have a J21, Noella or Especiales. Don't get me wrong, I think the Blacks are really good but the others I listed suits me better.

I think Chutney Lovebusciut hit it right on the head...it doesn't suit all people. :tu

Sawyer

05-11-2009, 08:49 AM

I don't get them either. They are just not a good cigar. I got rid of all the ones I had.

Footbag

05-11-2009, 08:53 AM

I've smoked about 5 or so Tat Blacks and while I do like them, I can think of a lot more cigar's, even Tat's that I think are better. But the jar is cool and I'm a sucker for PJ's marketing.

In general, I find them a bit flat.

acarr

05-11-2009, 08:58 AM

You are just Sauer Grapes over this whole thing. Actually, I do not see the panacea either. They are average at best and way overhyped.

68TriShield

05-11-2009, 09:03 AM

The couple I smoked were good.
Not *all that* but good cigars.

hotreds

05-11-2009, 09:06 AM

I like 'em and let me know if you wanna dispose of your remaining stock!

tsolomon

05-11-2009, 09:32 AM

Did you smoke the robusto from the 3 pak or the original corona gorda? The last one I smoked was one of the robustos and I just didn't think it was as good as the corona gorda, but I need to smoke both of these again and see if there's a difference. The more CCs I smoke, the less I think that there are any NCs that taste like them. There are some good NCs with excellent flavor that I enjoy a lot, but they don't tatse like CCs. :D

gnukfu

05-11-2009, 09:43 AM

I have smoked around a dozen of these, all the Corona Gorda. They are tasty cigars. Not the greatest stick on the planet and definitely didn't remind of me cuban cigars.

shilala

05-11-2009, 09:44 AM

Sauer Grapes

05-11-2009, 10:05 AM

I find them quite poopy. There are lots of guys here that just love them, and that's cool, too. Pete's story on his website that outlines how he came upon the blend is cool. There's a lot of love in that cigar, even if it's not at all to my taste.

That pretty much sums up my feelings about them. I have only smoked the Cornoa Gordas, but I do have some Robustos to smoke sometime.

FWIW, hand me a Cabaiguan Guopos anytime over a black. Heck, the havana line of Tats is far better IMO.

Oh, and I don't judge a NC cigar by how cuban it tastes. Far from it. I had just noted a lot of people saying they blacks taste cuban and for the life of me think it is one of the farthest from cuban tastes I've experienced.

It's pretty well known I'm still securely on the NC bandwagon (although I do enjoy the dark side as well). :ss

357

05-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Interesting...

Got one in the humi, never tried one yet. I love the aroma of the only one anyone smoked in my presence, but I've said that before and not liked the cigar when I smoked it myself.

HK3-

05-11-2009, 10:12 AM

Have been gifted a few of these and smoked everyone one as I received them.. I really enjoyed them all. If they weren't so damned expensive, I would probably buy a box. errrrrr jar I mean.

skullnrose

05-11-2009, 10:18 AM

I like them but enjoy many other tat's as much if not more. To me the blacks have a unique licorice taste to them and I love that in a cigar.

massphatness

05-11-2009, 10:24 AM

LOVE the Black -- lots of great peppery flavor. Nothing Cuban-esque about it. Been trolling the dark side these past few months, but one of the only NCs I've had during that time is the Black -- and I don't regret it. (FWIW, the DPG Blues are great too.)

stearns

05-11-2009, 10:35 AM

massphatness

05-11-2009, 10:37 AM

how do you feel about the robustos vs. the toros? do you have any of the robustos? :D

stearns

* I've only fondled the robustos but I do have two or three.

* Maybe we can PPP one at the herf

duckmanco

05-11-2009, 10:38 AM

I'll never get these either, as 13.00 or more per smoke is waaayy out of my range, period. The laws of diminishing returns hits cigars way below 13.00 a stick for me anyway.

stearns

05-11-2009, 10:39 AM

* I've only fondled the robustos but I do have two or three.

* Maybe we can PPP one at the herf

only if you let me supply it. i'll bring one next time we meet up

stearns

HK3-

05-11-2009, 10:53 AM

only if you let me supply it. i'll bring one next time we meet up

stearns

Sounds like a date. :lv :r

stearns

05-11-2009, 10:55 AM

Sounds like a date. :lv :r

a hot date

stearns

Mugen910

05-11-2009, 11:03 AM

Sounds like a date. :lv :r

a hot date

stearns

make it a three some? :cb

massphatness

05-11-2009, 11:08 AM

make it a three some? :cb

hawt!

Mugen910

05-11-2009, 11:09 AM

Sounds like a date. :lv :r

a hot date

stearns

make it a three some? :cb

hawt!

:wo

neoflex

05-11-2009, 08:37 PM

That pretty much sums up my feelings about them. I have only smoked the Cornoa Gordas, but I do have some Robustos to smoke sometime.

FWIW, hand me a Cabaiguan Guopos anytime over a black. Heck, the havana line of Tats is far better IMO.

Oh, and I don't judge a NC cigar by how cuban it tastes. Far from it. I had just noted a lot of people saying they blacks taste cuban and for the life of me think it is one of the farthest from cuban tastes I've experienced.

It's pretty well known I'm still securely on the NC bandwagon (although I do enjoy the dark side as well). :ss

Your not alone brotha! I have smoked a few Blacks and just never got that WOW factor out of them and I love me some Tats. If you put a Black and an East coast on the table and told me to pick one, I'm leaving the Black on the table. I have two more that I am letting rest to see if some sleep improves them but I am in the camp of thinking they were just Mehhh too. Not in any hurry to find more.
Have you tried the original Guapo size Cabiguan in Maduro yet? Now that is a great stick!

MNSmoker

05-12-2009, 07:41 PM

After reading this thread I decided to fire one of these up tonight. I smoked a couple of these last fall and loved them. Unfortunately, this stick had a fairly tight draw which always leads to muted flavors in the cigar. It started out slowly but turned very flavorful at the half way point. If it would have maintained like that until the end I would have been happy, but it turned south near the end. I'm happy that I have a few more resting in the Vino, but I will not go out of my way to purchase more of these.

WildBlueSooner

05-12-2009, 08:19 PM

hmm I have one I have been waiting on...it is not time yet!

Patience Grasshopper

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DPD6030

05-13-2009, 02:05 AM

Have been gifted a few of these and smoked everyone one as I received them.. I really enjoyed them all. If they weren't so damned expensive, I would probably buy a box. errrrrr jar I mean.

:tpd::dr

357

05-13-2009, 05:39 AM

I smoked my first Tat Black last night. Good smoke. I'm not sure if it's $13/stick good, but the jury is still out. I will have to get my hands on a couple more to be sure.

Mr. Ed

05-14-2009, 10:02 PM

I've had the corona gorda and the robusto from a friend about a month ago. Good cigar, a little too strong/harsh for my taste.

The Cabaiguan blend is where it's at for me from Pete Johnson.

Jason

05-14-2009, 10:14 PM

Had one given to me in a trade and smoked it a month ago max, my first, probably my last.

Very NC, not a bad thing in and of itself but neither do I see how anyone could equate one to the flavor of a Cuban, much different.

Similar to a young or high rh San Cristobal, AshstonVSG or JdN Antano machito. Metallic and a bit tarry

Ahbroody

05-14-2009, 10:27 PM

The couple I smoked were good.
Not *all that* but good cigars.

:tpd:
It may also have a little to do with hype. The more hype on a cigar the better it must be. Look at OpusX.

alley00p

05-14-2009, 10:37 PM

I received 1 Tat Black in my NC MAW pack from Shellie, but I have yet to smoke it. I may have to fire that sucker up soon! :ss

Just thinking about it, I'm not even sure what size it is or how old it is.....

:dance:

Ahbroody

05-14-2009, 10:51 PM

make it a three some? :cb

I want Pics or it didnt happen :r

stearns

05-15-2009, 07:53 AM

I want Pics or it didnt happen :r

you would want that you sick old man :lv

stearns

Ahbroody

05-15-2009, 11:01 AM

Funny you dont look like my wife, but you sure do sound like her.

Pat1075

05-15-2009, 08:10 PM

So far I've been enjoying mine. I think it is the strength that appeals to me but it is also very flavorful. It is a nice departure from my usual.

rennD

05-15-2009, 08:51 PM

Still very new to cigars, but the two I've had were not that bad. I'll take Siglos any day though :tu

TomHagen

05-17-2009, 12:27 AM

I really enjoy Tat Blacks, but they didn't blow me away especially for the price, while the Tat Black Robusto I had was PHENOMENAL!! They were much more dynamic and complex than the CG's, which are more one-dimensional (and I am a lover of the CG vitola)
I prefer the Tat Regios & Cojonu 2003 & Taino to the black Cg, but the Robusto I had was superior. Still waiting for a Tat brown CG...