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zemekone
10-13-2008, 10:33 PM
back when i use to smoke the bigger RGs i use to punch, but now im strictly a cut guy...

How about you?

Da Klugs
10-13-2008, 10:36 PM
back when i use to smoke the bigger RGs i use to punch, but now im strictly a cut guy...

How about you?

For me it's a real issue. We all have a smoking draw resistance preference whether we think about it or not.

When you find a particular cigar type of box that has a very loose draw using the puch is a nice way of "adjusting it down" to closer to your normal resistance preference.

poker
10-14-2008, 06:35 AM
I don't think I even have a punch anymore :confused:

tech-ninja
10-14-2008, 01:15 PM
I'm a cutter.

But I do have a punch, just in case.

Anyone do the V cut at all? Ever?

croatan
10-14-2008, 01:16 PM
I'm a cutter or a pincher (cutting/pinching with my fingernails). Don't remember the last time I used a punch. Not sure if I have one anymore, either.

tobii3
10-14-2008, 08:18 PM
I'm Jewish.....do the math.....

King James
10-14-2008, 08:18 PM
I'm Jewish.....do the math.....

hahaha, nice!




personally I have never used a punch....always cut

mikeyj23
10-14-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm a cutter or a pincher (cutting/pinching with my fingernails). Don't remember the last time I used a punch. Not sure if I have one anymore, either.

I've been pinching more since I heard you and Pete Johnson talking about it - had never thought about it before then. It's pretty darn effective!

Darrell
10-14-2008, 08:20 PM
back when i use to smoke the bigger RGs i use to punch, but now im strictly a cut guy...

How about you?

I'm the same way, very seldom will I smoke bigger than a 50RG, but when I do. I always punch, otherwise it's cut with my trust Palio.

tedrodgerscpa
10-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Punch is always on my key ring, so it's usually out of necessity that I punch rather than cut.

I ALWAYS punch the Litto Gomez style chisels, one punch to each side

VirtualSmitty
10-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Cut. I honestly haven't used a punch cut in probably three years or so. I do wish I had one of those badass Boston V-cutters those. They have one at the Davidoff on madison, it reeks of awesome.

Ace$nyper
10-14-2008, 08:43 PM
I love my Xikar cutter:ss

I haven't used my punch in ages.

Sandman
10-14-2008, 08:45 PM
Nearly always use my pocket knife. That way I can truly control the size of the opening, thus the draw.

That and I lost all my cutters. LOL

Steelerfanatic
10-14-2008, 08:46 PM
Anyone do the V cut at all? Ever?

I used to v cut every torpedo (and only torpedoes) I smoked. I know.....weird. :D

Now it's 99% Palio. I'll punch if I smoke a larger RG cigar.......which is very rarely.

chippewastud79
10-14-2008, 08:47 PM
For what ever reason I mix it up all the time. Punch at the B+M and use my Palio in the car, V-cut sometimes at the house. I even bite the cap off in a pinch. :tu

ThePict
10-14-2008, 09:06 PM
Tried a V cut last week and enjoyed it, but untill I buy one I'll be using my Palio or Xicar.

Mugen910
10-14-2008, 09:11 PM
Cut if it's a smaller RG but I will use a V-cutter for reg sized cigs if available. :tu

Genetic Defect
10-14-2008, 09:14 PM
after losing two Palio and a Xikar cutters I bought a cheap punch.

av8tor152d
10-14-2008, 09:14 PM
Def a cutter!

Aladdin Sane
10-14-2008, 10:28 PM
I've only used a punch a few times but it never really felt right.

Prefer the cutter!

cort
10-14-2008, 10:43 PM
Gotta go with the trusty CUT

JKim
10-14-2008, 10:44 PM
cut or bite.

jquirit
10-14-2008, 11:44 PM
The first time I started smoking cigars (about 10 years ago for about a year) I was using a punch strictly. When started smoking cigars again (about 2 years ago) I was using only cutters. Now, I've been experimenting with punches to increase some draw resistance.

But, by and large, I'm a cut kinda guy.

Coz77
10-15-2008, 07:18 AM
Ive been punching a lot lately...I have a Xikar Wolf, the 2 size punches are perfect for Petite Coronas right through the Toro size.

http://www.cigarextras.com/ProductImages/cutters/xikar/X357-all.jpg

Molarman777
10-16-2008, 07:28 AM
Well now feeling like the village/Asylum idiot I have heard the term punch but never really looked at what it meant.

I have always used the Palio cutter but I am in the market for a newer one, mine doesnt seem like it cuts like I want it to.

Open for suggestions/PM's on new cutters/or my Palio.


Now going back to studying cigars,


Jason

Scottw
10-16-2008, 08:22 AM
I cut 99 % of the time. I have used the V-cut, don;t like the punch (tar buildup) I stick with the cut.

rack04
10-16-2008, 08:24 AM
Cut 100% of the time. Actually I've never smoked a cigar that's been punched. Though I comtemplated buying a punch when I was doing alot of flying.

vicvitola
10-16-2008, 08:37 AM
Ive been punching a lot lately...I have a Xikar Wolf, the 2 size punches are perfect for Petite Coronas right through the Toro size.

http://www.cigarextras.com/ProductImages/cutters/xikar/X357-all.jpg

I use that same punch all the time. I rarely straight cut a cigar unless it's a piramide or figurado.

I really like a punch cut but I have found the key is using/finding the right size. Also if you do not have the punch centered on the cap when you cut, it can cause an uneven burn. I realized this after observing a few times that the side the opening was closer to was burning farther down.

BamBam
10-16-2008, 08:46 AM
Straight Cut...although I keep a punch for the golf course

Tombstone
10-16-2008, 08:56 AM
Punch, cut, bite....decisions..decisions..decisions.

Starscream
10-16-2008, 09:02 AM
I'm Jewish.....do the math.....
:r:r
The first time I started smoking cigars (about 10 years ago for about a year) I was using a punch strictly. When started smoking cigars again (about 2 years ago) I was using only cutters. Now, I've been experimenting with punches to increase some draw resistance.

But, by and large, I'm a cut kinda guy.

:tpd:Sums it up exactly for me!

Waynegro1
10-16-2008, 09:08 AM
Started with a punch, now cut almost everything. A friend of mine usually smokes cigars in his garage, where his favorite cutter is located. Yeah, he uses a coping saw, no joke, a coping saw!! :r:r:r

Beer Doctor
10-16-2008, 10:02 AM
I went through a punch phase where I'd punch my cigars in a figure 8 (i.e. two punches). Once I learned out to properly cut a cigar I stopped punching and strictly cut using my Xikar. I have a punch on the end of my Prometheus that I usually offer to friends but don't use myself anymore.

CoroHo
10-16-2008, 10:11 AM
I haven't punched since the last time when the concentration about made me sick. I guillotine or rarely v-notch.

CasaDooley
10-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Cut 90%
Punch 10%
Smoke 100%:ss

kfish
10-16-2008, 12:51 PM
I use both. Depends on what I'm smoking, if it's a decent size rg and not a belicoso I usually use a punch if it's not I cut.

Kfish

dunng
10-16-2008, 12:58 PM
I cut with my Palio... but I should break out the V cutter. :ss

md4958
10-16-2008, 01:08 PM
Cut

md4958
10-16-2008, 01:10 PM
I have always used the Palio cutter but I am in the market for a newer one, mine doesnt seem like it cuts like I want it to.

Open for suggestions/PM's on new cutters/or my Palio.

Jason

From what I understand the Palio has a lifetime warranty. Go into a b&m that sells Palio and they will swap it out for a new one. if Mark (OpusX at CS) was here, he could provide you with more details (Mark is co-owner of Palio and a good BOLT)

Boobar
10-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Since getting my Palio, cutting is the only way I go.

Dgar
10-16-2008, 04:48 PM
Always cut.....

FriskyDingo
10-16-2008, 05:04 PM
99% of the time its cut with my Palio. The other 1% is a punch.

I like to use a punch on the LFD Chisels. Punch all the way through, it's like a completely different smoke when done that way!

G G
10-18-2008, 07:50 AM
Mostly V-cut lately.:tu

AriesOpusX
10-19-2008, 11:40 AM
I only cut, I don't even know what happened to my punch cutters after I picked up a palio a few years ago.

spectrrr
10-30-2008, 03:05 AM
Punch and Cut, I cant stand the V-Cut

Punch resides on the keyring (cheap punch, but I just loved the .44 mag bullet :P), it only gets used (sometimes) for the larger ring sizes.

cheap cutter for everything else (havn't gotten around to getting a palio yet)

BigAl_SC
10-30-2008, 03:30 AM
I'm using a palio at home or a planned herf. It a cheap punch on the key ring for the cargar.........

silentjon
10-30-2008, 04:54 AM
I always use a cutter (Palio or Xikar). I do not like using a punch.

STYX&STONED
10-30-2008, 11:08 AM
100% Palio, but I'm sure there are a hand full of punches in the junk cabinet.

Ragin Cajun
10-30-2008, 11:43 AM
For me it would be a punch for robusto/toro shaped cigars, and a cutter for the rest.

jaycarla
10-30-2008, 11:48 AM
I am using the punch more and more. Still use the "V" cutter occasionally too.

Probably like tastes, I am sure I will bounce around between the two.

Don Fernando
10-30-2008, 12:28 PM
never punched, don't even have a punch

Benwoo
10-30-2008, 02:42 PM
Pair of punches showed up today that I ordered to play with. Cut my first cigar with the Palio last night, that was nice. Been cutting so far.

jbonnefsc
10-31-2008, 08:52 AM
I used to punch, then I got a Palio...

Clampdown
10-31-2008, 08:56 AM
I used to punch, but now i cut everytime. The key is to just take of the top cap, and see that nice divot left behind.

groogs
11-03-2008, 11:18 PM
I have a punch, but it gets less use than my Xikar. I have punched maybee three or four smokes, but I prefer to use my Palio for everything. I would punch a chisel, but I rarley smoke them.

BigAsh
11-04-2008, 01:59 PM
I have a triple flame Colibri with a punch attached on the bottom.....never really cared for it but convenient as hell....just got a Palio....now its cut, cut, cut....

Bruzee
11-09-2008, 03:29 AM
Cut with my trusty Palio, everytime...

shilala
11-09-2008, 09:37 AM
I'll do whatever it takes to get the cigar smoked. If I have a cutter near me, I'll use it. If not, I'll use whatever I can get my hands on. I don't normally bite the end off my cigar, but I'm not at all adverse to the idea.
I have a v cutter I've never used, and in the past I carried a lighter with a punch.
I mostly use one of my Xikars.

SilverFox
11-09-2008, 10:15 AM
I have always been a cut guy, started with cheap guillotine and went to a palio of which I thought I would never stop using. However of late I have been using my pocket knife, it has now become a new ritual for me to take my time carefully cutting the cap through to the point were it just pops off but none of the filler is cut. Anal perhaps but just a little more time in enjoying my sticks.

HK3-
11-09-2008, 10:50 AM
Punch on the short fillers and a cutter on everone else.

ucla695
11-09-2008, 03:48 PM
Cut.

WyGuy
11-13-2008, 06:26 AM
I personally don't even own a punch, so for the most part im strictly a cut guy. However, if a buddy or someone has a punch available i'll probably use it just because it's something different. Nice to change things every now and then.
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alley00p
11-15-2008, 01:51 PM
I tend to cut up to 55 RG and punch anything larger. I like to punch the Taboo Twist Toros that are 58's - I like the amount of smoke I get and can control it if neccessary by opening up the opening.

I think it depends on the draw; I've punched a stick that had lousy draw and ended up cutting it to be able to finish it.

:dance::dance::dance:

nozero
11-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Palio cut most of the time, but I use a punch occasionally.

I'd like to see a demo of this "pinch" method?

hoax
11-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Punching is far superior for mixed filler cigars, I cut everything else.

Cigarcop
11-15-2008, 03:30 PM
I usually cut but have been known to punch.

Cigary
11-15-2008, 03:47 PM
I bought a Boston V cutter 10 years ago and it still cuts like it did on the first day. l love the V cut as it is deep enough to pull the smoke and clean enough because of the surgical cut it gives. For the $110 I paid for it I would hope to shout!

NewCigarGuy
12-28-2008, 09:14 PM
I always go with a cut. V or straight simply depends on my mood at the time. I do enjoy the V cut though.

MikeyC
12-28-2008, 09:41 PM
I always go with a cut. V or straight simply depends on my mood at the time. I do enjoy the V cut though.

:tpd:

I enjoy a v-cut but most of the time I just straight cut.

Agent11br
12-29-2008, 07:43 AM
Either, though mostly I cut. I'm with everyone else on punching for larger RG

Studebaker
12-29-2008, 09:30 AM
I used a punch for the first time a couple of months ago, and now I punch all the time except for cutting the occasional torpedo. I like the draw better with the punch.

gorob23
12-29-2008, 12:33 PM
back when i use to smoke the bigger RGs i use to punch, but now im strictly a cut guy...

How about you?

oh my gosh I was worried!!! I thought those were my only two choices of how you were going to take me out tonight:bx Don't forget I have seen you arm wrestle. First the taunting then you drop the hammer :rlz

Rob :salute:

foomanto
12-29-2008, 05:30 PM
i like the punch never had a problem with it. i have cut and v cut a few times but i like the punch better.

eber
01-11-2009, 08:06 PM
I used to use a punch and a V cut when I first started mainly because I was afraid of cutting too much of the cap off when using a straight cut, now I am more used to it and really prefer the straight cut to the punch or the V

Cigary
01-11-2009, 09:03 PM
I cut with a Xicar and V cut with a BostonCutter.

theonlybear4CORT
01-11-2009, 09:04 PM
cut

Ratters
01-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Cranial Screw Top, of course. :ss

I developed it after watching with horror what some people did to the caps of their cigars, lopping off 1/8" or more. I frequently see people cutting off almost the entire cap to the cigar. I've found that cutting a cigar this way leaves a nice intact cap and reduces the amount of unraveling problems I had before using this method.

Step one:
Find a cigar that has a nice rounded cap for best results. Will not work on torpedo or belicoso cigars, though I confess I have never tried.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0016-4.jpg

Step two:
Place cutter gently and barely into the sides of the top of cap. While holding the cutter there, rotate the cigar.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0017-3.jpg

Step three:
Peel off the cap. The cap should just pop off with the cutter, I left a tad bit uncut to show that the cap is coming off but there was no filler cut at all.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0018-3.jpg

Final result:
Should be a very clean cut of just the cap without destroying any filler and leaving the remainder of the cap intact to avoid unraveling of the wrapper.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0025-4.jpg

And you get bonus satisfaction points for knowing where the name comes from. :groucho:

skyhigh340
01-11-2009, 10:25 PM
Punch. Unless it is a very small ring gauge then I v-cut.:ss

groogs
01-11-2009, 10:59 PM
Cranial Screw Top, of course. :ss

I developed it after watching with horror what some people did to the caps of their cigars, lopping off 1/8" or more. I frequently see people cutting off almost the entire cap to the cigar. I've found that cutting a cigar this way leaves a nice intact cap and reduces the amount of unraveling problems I had before using this method.

Step one:
Find a cigar that has a nice rounded cap for best results. Will not work on torpedo or belicoso cigars, though I confess I have never tried.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0016-4.jpg

Step two:
Place cutter gently and barely into the sides of the top of cap. While holding the cutter there, rotate the cigar.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0017-3.jpg

Step three:
Peel off the cap. The cap should just pop off with the cutter, I left a tad bit uncut to show that the cap is coming off but there was no filler cut at all.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0018-3.jpg

Final result:
Should be a very clean cut of just the cap without destroying any filler and leaving the remainder of the cap intact to avoid unraveling of the wrapper.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/Rattersar15/Cigars/IMG_0025-4.jpg

And you get bonus satisfaction points for knowing where the name comes from. :groucho:

I have been using Ratter's method for quite some time without fail. If you have not tried it, I suggest you get on board, it delivers one of the best cuts possible IMO.

totallytentative
01-11-2009, 11:24 PM
I was mostly cutting before, but now I find myself punching first if possible, mostly because I prefer my draw a bit on the tighter side. I figure if it's too tight I can lop off more with the cutter afterwards, but if I open it up too much first there's no going back. Also, I find punching better on those cigars with the really squared-off caps.

gettysburgfreak
01-12-2009, 08:22 AM
use and love my palio

ActionAndy
01-12-2009, 03:48 PM
I acquired a very cool Zino cutter so I've been using that, but I do still like the look and feel of a punched stogie. Just has to be a big enough ring gauge to justify it.

dentonparrots
01-12-2009, 04:00 PM
I acquired a very cool Zino cutter so I've been using that, but I do still like the look and feel of a punched stogie. Just has to be a big enough ring gauge to justify it.

I agree totally so I just punch it multiple times, basically to the same area as I'd do with cutting, just with a punch for the neater edges.
This is it with only the one punch in it
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6458/smallholepunchedoa0.jpg
And this is it punched a few more times. I just start from the middle and work outwards nibbling away with the cutting edge of the punch from the centre outwards.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8518/multipunchwa0.jpg

Having the shoulders still on makes it feel a load nicer when it's on my lips taking a draw.

BP22
01-12-2009, 04:33 PM
I go through phases...lately I am punching.

ActionAndy
01-12-2009, 04:41 PM
I'll give that a shot Dent, thanks.

CigaSkills9
01-16-2009, 08:36 PM
Depends on the RG, larger ones I like to punch, but most of the time I cut

Fumador
01-28-2009, 09:35 PM
I have been cutting cc's and punching nc's because the nc's have a looser draw. Some times I punch a cc with a larger rg also.

cigardude
01-29-2009, 01:57 AM
I punch larger ring gauges (usually 54+) and cut anything less then that.

Jimbo14
02-01-2009, 04:27 AM
I have been punching latley. But Sometimes I really like my cigars to breath so I cut. I currently use a Magnum 44 bullet that has been turned into a punch. Its pretty cool, but I want to buy the xikar wolf because it has two punch sizes...

Homebrewer
02-01-2009, 04:54 AM
For years I was always a cutter. Last year I tried a punch for the first time and it's good. Much less tobacco particles in the teeth and no annoying caps unwrapping.

I'm about 50/50. I usually punch on-the-go.

roughrider
02-01-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm the same way, very seldom will I smoke bigger than a 50RG, but when I do. I always punch, otherwise it's cut with my trust Palio.


Same here.