Airforce question

[ucubed]

So the backstory is...
My cousin who wanted to be a pilot for the airforce got denied acceptance. he passed all the exams on the 99 percentile and got lasik eye sirgery to corret his vision. He passed the physicals and exams though he has a heart murmur too. However he wasn't denied for any of those, he was denied because the skin on his nose is too dry? I'm curious to know why this matters...

*might I add he also obtained his pilot license before hand...

Thanks guys!

[md4958]

I'm curious to know why this matters...

me too!

[taltos]

It may have to do with the fit of the oxygen mask where the lack of skin oils could cause scraping and pain that could distract the pilot from completing his mission. Just a guess though.

[TheJ]

There are a few USAF pilots staying at my hotel. I'll ask the next one or more until I get an answer for you.

[leasingthisspace]

Sounds fishy, I have no idea about this one.

[WildBlueSooner]

I actually got a pilot slot then lost it because of medical reasons..however I have never heard of anything like that, nor did have them exam the oils of my skin on my nose!

[hotreds]

Sounds fishy, I have no idea about this one.


Someone who passes everything in the 99th percentile would not be dumped because of a small amount of eczema on his nose.

[WildBlueSooner]

Someone who passes everything in the 99th percentile would not be dumped because of a small amount of eczema on his nose.

I agree 100%. I know many pilots who have had waivers for various things...a dry nose would not be a problem.

[leasingthisspace]

Someone who passes everything in the 99th percentile would not be dumped because of a small amount of eczema on his nose.

Exactly.

[TheJ]

Someone who passes everything in the 99th percentile would not be dumped because of a small amount of eczema on his nose.

Only run into one pilot thus far this evening. He says he's met other pilots with eczema.

[TheJ]

Maybe there aren't any slots available. I don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier, but I have friend, Kevin, who was a commercial pilot for years before joining the Air Force. He's still not flying. He's waiting for his turn.

[WildBlueSooner]

Maybe there aren't any slots available. I don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier, but I have friend, Kevin, who was a commercial pilot for years before joining the Air Force. He's still not flying. He's waiting for his turn.

The slots are there brother believe me! In fact they are taking applicants out of other career fields if you qualify. As far as waiting, actual pilot training is backed up about 12 months right now, meaning candidates usually go to causal status before they begin UPT (undergraduate pilot training)

[TheJ]

The slots are there brother believe me! In fact they are taking applicants out of other career fields if you qualify. As far as waiting, actual pilot training is backed up about 12 months right now, meaning candidates usually go to causal status before they begin UPT (undergraduate pilot training)

That could be what he's doing. Tyndall is a training base. Most of my friends I've met here in Florida are all military. I just don't talk shop with them as I don't know what they're talking about most of the time with their darn acronyms.

[ucubed]

Well he told me that he got his pilot license because Airforce likes to see that you are competent enough to fly plus acing all exams. He is a graduate of Princeton in aeronautical engineering and works for Boeing in Seattle as Design Engineer. I just find it strange and very annoying that a top applicant gets turned down for supposed dry skin on the nose.

[michael88n]

[QUOTE=ucubed;331788 he was denied because the skin on his nose is too dry? I'm curious to know why this matters... [/QUOTE]

An Air Force Pilot //insert// Dry Nose //insert// Butt kisser //insert//End Joke.

[Partagaspete]

This does not scan at all. There must be something more to it.

T

[Savvy]

This does not scan at all. There must be something more to it.

T
:tpd: I definitely can't figure out why that would really be a problem. Especially with how good his scores were. There has to be something else to it.

[michael88n]

:tpd: I definitely can't figure out why that would really be a problem. Especially with how good his scores were. There has to be something else to it.


I agree. You can get a waiver for being too tall, too short, too old, too... whatever! So why can't he get a waiver for dry skin on his nose?

Cheers,
Michael

The Navy rules the waves, and the Air Force waives the rules.

[ade06]

Maybe you should have your friend write a letter to his congressman or senator.

[alley00p]

Maybe you should have your friend write a letter to his congressman or senator.

:tpd:

That was my first thought as I was reading through this thread!

He could always try the Navy or the Marines...



:dance:

[WildBlueSooner]

Maybe you should have your friend write a letter to his congressman or senator.

My guess is he maybe he doesnt want to say why he got DQd...so he came up with that. Just a thought

[hotreds]

:tpd:
He could always try the Navy or the Marines...
:dance:

Naval aviation!

http://www.montgomeryaviationphotography.com/Oceana2008/Resized_IMG_0093.jpg

[Tenor CS]

Naval aviation!

http://www.montgomeryaviationphotography.com/Oceana2008/Resized_IMG_0093.jpg

Who's the big guy bringing up the rear?

[ucubed]

I highly doubt he wouldn't say why he had his application denied, considering he paid for his lasik and his pilot's license, plus his academic prowess. He's in top physical condition too, he rowed for Princeton and biked from Seattle to New York with a friend a few times. So odd no?

[WildBlueSooner]

I highly doubt he wouldn't say why he had his application denied, considering he paid for his lasik and his pilot's license, plus his academic prowess. He's in top physical condition too, he rowed for Princeton and biked from Seattle to New York with a friend a few times. So odd no?

Im just saying...the AF would not deny someone for that. There must be something else...I was just speculating.

[ucubed]

Im just saying...the AF would not deny someone for that. There must be something else...I was just speculating.

I see I see. Maybe they just don't like Asian pilots =P

[WildBlueSooner]

I see I see. Maybe they just don't like Asian pilots =P

:r....that made me laugh my arse off. However, we can throw that theory out because I know an Asian pilot :tu

[hotreds]

Who's the big guy bringing up the rear?

E-2C Hawkeye

http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/e2.htm

[TheJ]

Talked to 3 pilots today; T-18, F-16(asian pilot), and F-22A.

All agreed dry nose is not the reason.

[sodomanaz]

:r....that made me laugh my arse off. However, we can throw that theory out because I know an Asian pilot :tu

Maybe he ruined it for the rest of us!

[ucubed]

Talked to 3 pilots today; T-18, F-16(asian pilot), and F-22A.

All agreed dry nose is not the reason.

Interesting, so either my cousin is hiding something (which I HIGHLY doubt) or the Airforce is, thanks a lot for the information

[19thHole]

Maybe there aren't any slots available. I don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier, but I have friend, Kevin, who was a commercial pilot for years before joining the Air Force. He's still not flying. He's waiting for his turn.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of commercial pilot is he? I was always under the assumption that commercial pilots that flew for the airlines were almost always ex-USAF because that was about the only way to get enough hours. I am not speaking from experience, but I always heard that airline pilots needed like 1000 hours of flight time or something huge like that before they could fly people.

[Thrak]

1000 hrs of flight time isnt that much really...

You can always tell a military/navy pilot on a commercial flight by the way they land.... privately trained pilots are generally much much smoother on the landing.

[19thHole]

My cousin is a pilot. I worked for the Air Force as a civilian for some years. That is the extent of my experience. :)

That is interesting though about the landings. I will pay attention on my next flight.

[hotreds]

1000 hrs of flight time isnt that much really...

You can always tell a military/navy pilot on a commercial flight by the way they land.... privately trained pilots are generally much much smoother on the landing.

I flew on Aeroflot in the 1960s. Talk about rough landings!

[ucubed]

He can fly small Aircrafts as of right now or something of the sort, I forget exactly.

[Partagaspete]

Interesting, so either my cousin is hiding something (which I HIGHLY doubt) or the Airforce is, thanks a lot for the information

It may be something as simple as the fact that he has a waiver for the lasiks and another for the murmer just might be one too many and he doesn't really want to get into it because from his point of view it is a minor technicality and those are the most frustrating. In th military they say everything is waiverable however you can only have only so many for such and such a job or special duty.

I do work with some very good Flight docs and if your cousin wants I will run his stuff up through them and see what they say. Ask him and if he says okay PM me and then we will work out the details. If I can help I will but I will tell you this; the A.F. is really looking hard for pilots right now so they would reluctantly let one go for a silly reason.

T

[Volt]

Hmmm, Navy no good for him if he needs more than 500 ft to land... :) I agree a little dry skin doesn't sound kosher to me.