Just bought a 600ct humi and need advice

[e-man67]

Ok...first off thanks to you people for giving me the cigar bug even worse than I previously had...now I had to upgrade my 75ct display humidor to this 600ct I just bought....now I have a cigar oasis in my 75ct that does the job really well but I am uncertain what I need for this 600ct humi....any thoughts? I was looking at the Heartfelt beads but these seem really expensive unless I am missing something...need some advise as I have already broken the bank in a week since joining this place! :rolleyes:

This thing is what I bought and for not a lot of money:

[GKitty]

Wow.. that's quite the leap. Way to jump right in!! :wo

Enjoy the freefall!

[loki]

my thoughts...you need cigars

[Smokin Gator]

That is a nice looking humi... congrats. I would go with 2 lbs of 65% beads - preferably Scott's.

[hotreds]

Beads are worth it. They tell you how much to buy for different size humis. You need to fill that up soon, SCHIP is coming in but two short weeks!

[icantbejon]

very nice looking humi. Fill that quickly or others will.

[e-man67]

That is a nice looking humi... congrats. I would go with 2 lbs of 65% beads - preferably Scott's.

What are Scott's beads? I have never heard of them. Are they cheaper than the heartfelt?

[white_s2k]

He is a member here. His SN is shilala. Shoot him a PM.
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[e-man67]

Beads are worth it. They tell you how much to buy for different size humis. You need to fill that up soon, SCHIP is coming in but two short weeks!

Yeah, I have a bunch on the way! Are the beads reusable or do they need to be replaced? How long do they last? Sorry for the stupid questions but I have never used them.

[e-man67]

He is a member here. His SN is shilala. Shoot him a PM.
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Thanks man! Much appreciated!

[DPD6030]

Beads will last a lifetime. I haven't had to touch mine in over 5 months now. Oh and btw you should have went bigger on the humi...just saying :rolleyes:

[e-man67]

Beads will last a lifetime. I haven't had to touch mine in over 5 months now. Oh and btw you should have went bigger on the humi...just saying :rolleyes:


I have dropped big coin in the last week...for me anyway...this one may cause a divorce! Next, I am doing a walk-in! :D

[DPD6030]

I have dropped big coin in the last week...for me anyway...this one may cause a divorce! Next, I am doing a walk-in! :D

Oh I don't doubt it Eric. I have two vinos and a cooler :r Started with one desktop then bought another.

[chippewastud79]

Very nice pick up:tu

Just beads, who ever you go with, about 2 lbs should do it :2

[e-man67]

Cool, thanks! I have been reading up on the Crystal Clear Litter Pearls that people have great luck with those so I am going to give them a shot I think....now I gotta build a fan!...but not tonight...I'm smokin. :ss

[chippewastud79]

Cool, thanks! I have been reading up on the Crystal Clear Litter Pearls that people have great luck with those so I am going to give them a shot I think....now I gotta build a fan!...but not tonight...I'm smokin. :ss

Kitty Litter will not help. There is no evidence to support them. Shilala did the research and you might need more than enough to fill your humi to even be effective. Spend the $30 or so to buy RH or HCM beads, then you won't have to monkey with anything.

[leasingthisspace]

Cool, thanks! I have been reading up on the Crystal Clear Litter Pearls that people have great luck with those so I am going to give them a shot I think....now I gotta build a fan!...but not tonight...I'm smokin. :ss

You may not want to do that. Read all the threads about the litter here and you will find out they aren't what you would want to go with.



You beat me to it.

[spectrrr]

That is a nice looking humi... congrats. I would go with 2 lbs of 65% beads - preferably Scott's.

Kitty Litter will not help. There is no evidence to support them. Shilala did the research and you might need more than enough to fill your humi to even be effective. Spend the $30 or so to buy RH or HCM beads, then you won't have to monkey with anything.

You may not want to do that. Read all the threads about the litter here and you will find out they aren't what you would want to go with.

:tpd:x100

I started with the heartfelt beads, and now use Shilala's beads for everything and swear by them. they WORK.

Don't use kitty litter. You WILL regret it one day. Compared to the money you spend on cigars and a nice case, the money for the beads is small... but will save you weeks of headaches in the future. And the beads will pretty much last forever.

[marge796]

Holy Batman that’s a nice humidor! Congratulations! And yes, hurry and buy as many of your favorites cee-gars before the tax man shows up and kicks all of us in our happy spots.


:ss

[Drat]

Don't cheap out on the humidification. You spend a ton of money on cigars, don't let questionable humidification ruin them. I use Heartfelt and hardly ever have to worry about them. I'd be using Scott's if I had known about them when buying my humidors, damn newbie...

[e-man67]

Man, I don't know what to do! I read on the CA forum that there was no difference between them and the HF beads...ugh.:confused:

[Drat]

:tpd:x100

I started with the heartfelt beads, and now use Shilala's beads for everything and swear by them. they WORK.

Don't use kitty litter. You WILL regret it one day. Compared to the money you spend on cigars and a nice case, the money for the beads is small... but will save you weeks of headaches in the future. And the beads will pretty much last forever.

If enough of us say the same thing, maybe he'll listen? :r:r:r :ss

[chippewastud79]

Man, I don't know what to do! I read on the CA forum that there was no difference between them and the HF beads...ugh.:confused:

Big difference. One major difference is one is made for absorbing cat pee and the other is made for regulating humidity in humidors. :tu

[elderboy02]

Big difference. One major difference is one is made for absorbing cat pee and the other is made for regulating humidity in humidors. :tu

+1. Get the beads. The beads absorb extra humidity and release humidity when it is too low.

[DPD6030]

I can tell you from having both that Shilala beads are rock solid. Like I said earlier I haven't had to add anything to them for around 4 months. On the other hand heartfelt at least in my case it seems to add water every month or so. I ended up getting rid of most of my heartfelt and got Shilala beads. I still use HF in the cooler though.

[marge796]

Big difference. One major difference is one is made for absorbing cat pee and the other is made for regulating humidity in humidors. :tu

Top notch!!

:tu

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[e-man67]

I fired off an e-mail to him so hopefully soon he will let me know. So what does 2lbs run...rough estimate?

[Savor the Stick]

Kitty Litter will not help. There is no evidence to support them. Shilala did the research and you might need more than enough to fill your humi to even be effective. Spend the $30 or so to buy RH or HCM beads, then you won't have to monkey with anything.

Eric there is some wisdom here...save yourself some money now by getting the right product the first time.

[G G]

You CANNOT go wrong with Shilala's beads. It is a one time cost, and then they are almost worry free. I haven't had to boost em up but a couple times in almost a year.:tu

[14holestogie]

I fired off an e-mail to him so hopefully soon he will let me know. So what does 2lbs run...rough estimate?

It'll be more than the kitty litter, but WORTH EVERY PENNY! :2

Don't scrimp on the humidification. You will regret it if you do. :(

[RockonBigB]

Scott's beads are amazing. I have them in 2 vino's and they worked so well that I ended up putting them in my Avallo to work with the Acumonitor to keep humidity down during the summer months. It is on of those investments that you will never regret.

[pmp]

I personally vote for a CO or hydra and a pound or two of beads.

well at least until I start selling the crystals in bulk. Then I will recommend those because they do work very very well.

[SixPackSunday]

ok guys i wasnt going to say anything, but i'll go ahead and brace for the flaming

I used kitty litter for roughly 3 months with NO regrets what so ever. my humidity held perfect at 65% and I only had two pounds in there (600ct humi). The only reason I no longer use them is because I moved to a cigar oasis. At the time I was strapped for cash and $16 for 7 lbs of ktty litter was something I was willing to try. I got the 100% oscilla beads unscented. The only reason I have an oasis now is because I snagged a barely used one for half price on another forum.

hate if you must, but for 3 months there were no rewatering them, no odor, and a crazy cheap remedy for perfect humidity. I'm not saying they DONT work i'm just saying for three months they DID work.

[e-man67]

That is the same thing that I read.....man...what to do.:confused:

[WildBlueSooner]

That is the same thing that I read.....man...what to do.:confused:

Kitty litter is for kitty poo...yucky!

[14holestogie]

Just for the sake of argument, you're going to fill that humi with sticks at a conservative estimate of about $2000.

Invest another $100 for peace of mind and get the beads.

Kitty litter may do well in a stable environment in the winter months, but it won't handle the humidity swings you'll see come the summer months.

[e-man67]

alright shililah you gotta pm me back! So confused!

[WildBlueSooner]

Just for the sake of argument, you're going to fill that humi with sticks at a conservative estimate of about $2000.

Invest another $100 for peace of mind and get the beads.

Kitty litter may do well in a stable environment in the winter months, but it won't handle the humidity swings you'll see come the summer months.

:tpd:

[chippewastud79]

That is the same thing that I read.....man...what to do.:confused:

Make an investment in your cigars and buy a product that has been proven to work time and time again. HCM beads and Rh Beads are used by most members of forums, sold by well respected vendors and members and are designed for humidity regulation not just addition.

I realize you read 6pack's testemonial on another site. Kitty litter is designed to keep cat pee from stinking up your room and is designed to clump around poop. I realize that 6pack and some other noobs have used them with some success, but they are not designed for that use and will not handle fluctuations and provide a constant proper environment.

Spend the $30-$50 or so that you should in a good product that will last forever. :2

[leasingthisspace]

I think he is the only one that can make up his mind.
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[spectrrr]

ok guys i wasnt going to say anything, but i'll go ahead and brace for the flaming

I used kitty litter for roughly 3 months with NO regrets what so ever. my humidity held perfect at 65% and I only had two pounds in there (600ct humi). The only reason I no longer use them is because I moved to a cigar oasis. At the time I was strapped for cash and $16 for 7 lbs of ktty litter was something I was willing to try. I got the 100% oscilla beads unscented. The only reason I have an oasis now is because I snagged a barely used one for half price on another forum.

hate if you must, but for 3 months there were no rewatering them, no odor, and a crazy cheap remedy for perfect humidity. I'm not saying they DONT work i'm just saying for three months they DID work.

one word, no flaming: ENVIRONMENT!

That you had those great results I do not doubt. However, journey back for a moment with me to science class, and the "scientific method". Simply put, one test, conducted over a limited period of time, in only one part of the country and one specific home environment is not a sufficient body of evidence to draw a scientifically valid conclusion from.

I have no doubt that the kitty litter works GREAT When it is exposed to and operated in a specific environment and under specific conditions. (The kind that you most likely lucked out and had present in your house at the time of the experiment). However, I also can say that if the kitty litter were exposed to a more diverse range of changing conditions and seasons, it will NOT do its job year-round.

Eric, skim through this thread again and note how many people have chimed their vote for each solution. Cigar smokers, as a whole, are a fairly smart group of guys, and we can be quite clever with some of our solutions :). The kitty litter idea is not a new one, its been around for years and years. If it actually worked well over a long period of time in more than one or two sets of specific conditions, don't you think you would see more people here touting the merits of it? YET you see the exact opposite. Anyone who has been around a while, seen the fads come and go, and has money invested in their cigars, everyone single one of them has told you and will tell you to get beads. ...:hm.... Nobody here is lying or misleading you about their experience, and everyone posts with the best of intentions. However its very difficult to draw a conclusion from any one example or any one person's advice, including my own - if you want the real answer, just look at the numbers.

[e-man67]

Thanks guys for all your advise as I really appreciate it, all of it! I am going to run Scott's beads if he has any left. I pm'd him yesterday afternoon and haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully he isn't out of them. The humi already shipped, I've got 70 cigars on the way, my 75 ct is overfilled, so I gotta get rockin! :tu

[DPD6030]

Good choice on Scott's beads. You will be nothing but happy. :tu

[WildBlueSooner]

Thanks guys for all your advise as I really appreciate it, all of it! I am going to run Scott's beads if he has any left. I pm'd him yesterday afternoon and haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully he isn't out of them. The humi already shipped, I've got 70 cigars on the way, my 75 ct is overfilled, so I gotta get rockin! :tu

Good choice indeed! You will be happy with your purchase!

[e-man67]

Does he have a website or another way I can contact him?

[Scottw]

beautiful Humi!

[Drat]

Thanks guys for all your advise as I really appreciate it, all of it! I am going to run Scott's beads if he has any left. I pm'd him yesterday afternoon and haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully he isn't out of them. The humi already shipped, I've got 70 cigars on the way, my 75 ct is overfilled, so I gotta get rockin! :tu

Doesn't sound like you have enough time to properly season the new one. Better setup some tupperdors or cooleradors in the interim. You can ruin good cigars by not properly seasoning a new humidor just as easily as you can ruin it without the proper humidification devices.

Congrats on the freefall down the slope. Keep in mind, there is no bottom....

[spectrrr]

Doesn't sound like you have enough time to properly season the new one. Better setup some tupperdors or cooleradors in the interim. You can ruin good cigars by not properly seasoning a new humidor just as easily as you can ruin it without the proper humidification devices.

Congrats on the freefall down the slope. Keep in mind, there is no bottom....

:tpd: Good catch - the man speaks the truth. Stick the new cigars in a few tupperdors for the time being while you season the humi properly, the sticks will be fine in plastic for a while. Make sure you get her good n seasoned, a 600ct is a PITA to empty and re-season :tg

[e-man67]

How much time to season? I have barely enough room in my current humi but I can make do for sure. It is coming monday and I should have the beads by then as well.

[e-man67]

Also, if anyone is looking for one of these I thought I got a good deal...a place called cigartoyz.com for $150 (plus like $36 shipping)...I will let you all know for sure though how nice or not noce it really is when I get it. Never done business with this joint before.

[Drat]

From Cheaphumidors.com (I bolded what I thought was the most important part):

Re-humidifying your humidor is easy, just follow these simple steps:

Place a shallow container filled with distilled water in the humidor
Place calibrated hygrometer inside humidor
Charge your humidification device
Place humidification device inside humidor
You have to check the relative humidity every day. Depending on a number of factors this can take a few days to a few weeks. When you get in the 70 range it is safe to store you smokes inside. As long as you constantly recharge your humidification device you will never have to wait to store your cigars again.
I always suggest waiting at least 7-10 days, no matter what the hygrometer says before putting cigars in a new humidor.

[e-man67]

cool! Thanks for the info! :tu

[GKitty]

Also, if anyone is looking for one of these I thought I got a good deal...a place called cigartoyz.com for $150 (plus like $36 shipping)...I will let you all know for sure though how nice or not noce it really is when I get it. Never done business with this joint before.

http://www.cigartoyz.com/_e/DISPLAY_HUMIDORS100_4000_CIGARS/product/AV-600/600_Count_Display_Humidor_AV_600_Exclusive_Sale_.h tm

That's a crazy good deal. You'll have to let us know what it looks like when it comes in. I mean, I almost paid that much for my last humi and it isn't nearly as schmancy (and I mean that in a good way) or have even half the capacity. This is a borderline "too good to be true" type of deal.

Anyone else ever buy from this vendor before?

[e-man67]

That is the same thing I thought! The cheapest I saw one for was $259 + shipping of this same type...I just stumbled on it and could not pass it up. They apparently shipped it the very next day...got a tracking number...hope the box isn't full of rocks and garbage! :rolleyes:

[GKitty]

That is the same thing I thought! The cheapest I saw one for was $259 + shipping of this same type...I just stumbled on it and could not pass it up. They apparently shipped it the very next day...got a tracking number...hope the box isn't full of rocks and garbage! :rolleyes:

Like I said, I'm interested to hear how it comes in. I'm not trying to be negative. Don't let me rain on your parade. I'm just jealous. ;)

[DPD6030]

Like I said, I'm interested to hear how it comes in. I'm not trying to be negative. Don't let me rain on your parade. I'm just jealous. ;)

:tpd: would be a hell of a steal at that price.