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Tuxguy
02-27-2009, 08:51 PM
So the wife and I went to the Home and Garden show this evening. There was a booth selling these gel water beads to more or less put in vases of plants and flowers. The wife decided she wanted some, so we bought some. They are really tiny but once you add water they expand and hold the water for awhile. Over time they shrink up and then you add more water. My question is, will these work in my humidors if I add distilled water to them. I do not see why not, the only issue that I see is controlling the RH.
Here is a link of the beads I am speaking of.
http://www.soilmoist.com/products/decobeads.php

Darrell
02-27-2009, 08:54 PM
I do not see why not, the only issue that I see is controlling the RH.

Isn't that reason enough to rule them out as a means of humidifying your sticks.

Honestly, it's not worth the risk.

:2

Tuxguy
02-27-2009, 09:03 PM
Isn't that reason enough to rule them out as a means of humidifying your sticks.

Honestly, it's not worth the risk.

:2

I have Heartfelt beads in both my humidors so I have no need to put these in there. I was just wondering if these things would work though. You really can not control the RH if you use that floral foam crap either.

Darrell
02-27-2009, 09:04 PM
I have Heartfelt beads in both my humidors so I have no need to put these in there. I was just wondering if these things would work though.

I really doubt it. Since their is no means of controlling or regulating the humidity I bet it would go buck wild depending on ambient temp/RH. :2

RonC
02-27-2009, 09:08 PM
these crystals are what is used in Drymistat brand humidity tubes. They are also what is in the Xikar Gel Humidifiers, and the gel humidifiers that I sell. Do not fill them with straight distilled water. Fill them with a water /pg solution, and your humidity will stay at about 70%. one advantage of these crystals is that they hold a LOT of humidor solution. they last a long time.

M1903A1
02-27-2009, 09:16 PM
They are also what is in the Xikar Gel Humidifiers

I bought a couple of these not too long ago, and my RH (and sticks) have improved a LOT. Agree 100% about the 50/50 solution too.

Tuxguy
02-27-2009, 09:20 PM
these crystals are what is used in Drymistat brand humidity tubes. They are also what is in the Xikar Gel Humidifiers, and the gel humidifiers that I sell. Do not fill them with straight distilled water. Fill them with a water /pg solution, and your humidity will stay at about 70%. one advantage of these crystals is that they hold a LOT of humidor solution. they last a long time.

Interesting

JaKaacH
02-27-2009, 09:38 PM
I use them in my humidors and coolers with distilled water only, they work great.
I'm pretty sure it is the same stuff thats in "water pillows" sold in B&Ms everywhere.

Tenor CS
02-27-2009, 10:31 PM
I use Heartfelt beads in my big humidors. However, I use the Drymistat tubes in my travel humidors, and the 3 small 20-count humis that I have. RonC has, in my purchases from him, shown to have top-notch products, and I will definitely heed his advice to use a H2O/PG solution rather than straight distilled. It makes sense to me.

RonC
02-28-2009, 09:06 AM
I use them in my humidors and coolers with distilled water only, they work great.
I'm pretty sure it is the same stuff thats in "water pillows" sold in B&Ms everywhere.
it is the stuff thats in Water Pillows.

using the PG mix in the Pillows makes them work even better.

pmp
02-28-2009, 10:11 AM
Yes it works. They make many sizes of crystal gel humidifier that replace the standard humidifiers inside your humidor quite nicely. One of the best upgrades you can make to a desktop humidor is to use this over florist foam type humidifiers.

Totemic
02-28-2009, 11:49 AM
How well would these work in things like Hydra/Oasis? Instead of filling the foam containers with distilled water, can you remove the foam completely and fill them up with these gels then add distilled water?

RonC
02-28-2009, 11:59 AM
How well would these work in things like Hydra/Oasis? Instead of filling the foam containers with distilled water, can you remove the foam completely and fill them up with these gels then add distilled water?

many people have done this, and it works extremely well. one warning, I have heard of some warranty issues for altering the product

Tenor CS
02-28-2009, 08:51 PM
How well would these work in things like Hydra/Oasis? Instead of filling the foam containers with distilled water, can you remove the foam completely and fill them up with these gels then add distilled water?

I think s15driftking (Bobby) did this recently, complete with pics.

Link here: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6346&highlight=oasis

h20beads.com
08-11-2009, 04:32 PM
I sell these gel balls you speak of go to www.h20beads.com contact for more info!

Thanks,
John

AD720
08-11-2009, 04:40 PM
How well would these work in things like Hydra/Oasis? Instead of filling the foam containers with distilled water, can you remove the foam completely and fill them up with these gels then add distilled water?


I think s15driftking (Bobby) did this recently, complete with pics.

Link here: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6346&highlight=oasis


That's what I'm using in my oasis as well.

bigloo
08-11-2009, 05:12 PM
I use this stuff treated with PG in conjunction with beads in all my humidors. I end up having to refill the water gel about once every 2 months. along with the beads my humidity is worry free 65-67% ofr 60 days at a time and then all it takes is 2 ounce water top off. I never actually add water to my beads. I love the stuff and it works very well with beads to control the humidity.

bigloo
08-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Also, the PG helps prevent mold... think about it... wet damp gel.. dark 70 degree box... PG helps prevent mold!

icehog3
08-11-2009, 05:31 PM
I sell these gel balls you speak of go to www.h20beads.com contact for more info!

Thanks,
John

Might want to introduce yourself in the Retailer Forum so people have an idea who they are doing business with. :)

CigarNut
08-12-2009, 09:02 AM
these crystals are what is used in Drymistat brand humidity tubes. They are also what is in the Xikar Gel Humidifiers, and the gel humidifiers that I sell. Do not fill them with straight distilled water. Fill them with a water /pg solution, and your humidity will stay at about 70%. one advantage of these crystals is that they hold a LOT of humidor solution. they last a long time.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "pg solution"?

poker
08-12-2009, 09:12 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "pg solution"?

PG = Poly Glycol

Solution meaning the ratio of distilled water to PG (1:1, 1.5:1 etc

http://www.cigargroup.com/faq/#5.2

cbsmokin
08-12-2009, 03:52 PM
That's what I'm using in my oasis as well.

I've been doing it for a long time without any issues. Better performance than the foam.

Toasted Coastie
08-12-2009, 06:17 PM
I use the gel in my Hydra LG. Coated them with PG first, then added distilled. Only filled half the space that the foam filled, keeps at 68% in conjunctionwith oust fans and 2 bead tubes that I never add water to.

Works the nuts....